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    Grazie Haroon! Very, very useful advice.

    Given the reduced price in relation to the Sony model, I think I'd be inclined to opt for the Samsung 5 Series you recommended. It's a pity that I have to economise a smidge but I also have half a palace's worth of furniture and the like to pay for. Grrrr!

    Essentially, I just want something which is going to do justice to The Godfather on Blu-ray...and allow me to own noobs on COD5 with perfect clarity

    Grazie again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haroon View Post
    The price is really good I must say. I guess the reason is that in the UK Samsung has already introduced the Series 7, 8 and 9 which are a bit different as they are LEDs (sure about the 7 and 9) which is a different technology.

    I would advise to buy the TV set from a brick and mortar store rather than an online store. It's always better with electronics so that you know who to contact if there is a problem in future.

    Even if you are slightly short at the moment, wait it out for a month or two and the price will drop further. Then buy it. As I said, the 6 Series is one heck of a set. Your jaw will drop when you see Dodo fumble, Chav-Ho miss a sitter on this TV! When you buy it, get in touch with me and I will guide you through the settings to use to watch what type of programming.
    LOL Haroon

    Thanks for that and hopefully I will be able to scrape enough soon as I have looking at this tv for some time
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    Quote Originally Posted by GattusoKing View Post
    Grazie Haroon! Very, very useful advice.

    Given the reduced price in relation to the Sony model, I think I'd be inclined to opt for the Samsung 5 Series you recommended. It's a pity that I have to economise a smidge but I also have half a palace's worth of furniture and the like to pay for. Grrrr!

    Essentially, I just want something which is going to do justice to The Godfather on Blu-ray...and allow me to own noobs on COD5 with perfect clarity

    Grazie again!
    You're welcome Simon. Just try to go for:

    1. The largest screen possible in your budget. Currently, 32" fits your bill but if you can manage to go up to 37" or 40" then you will not regret it one bit. e.g. the 40" Series 5 (model 558 which is the highest model according to the Samsung UK website). You can get 8 more inches and you jump to a bigger screen so consider the extra value you are getting for a few pounds more.

    Series 5 (558) - 32" / 37" / 40"

    See the price of each and then weigh the options. You would ideally want to get a TV that can give you 4-5 years of excellent service.

    2. I have not seen this model number on the official UK website but for 79 more you can get a 40" Series 5 (559) model with all the bells and whistles.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-LE40...1569833&sr=1-6

    Therefore, just do some running around to get the best price and you will surely get a good deal on the TV.
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    Default DLP Projectors

    You will have to re-visit Pg. 2 of this thread to recap what we discussed last. I will summarize what we have discussed so far.

    -> Projectors [LCD PJs & LCoS PJs i.e. DILA / SXRD]
    -> HD Video
    -> HD Sound

    Now we will move on to the third type of projector technology which is DLP. It is also considered state of the art. The highest end projectors are all DLP. DLP is further divided into two categories.

    -> Single Chip DLPs aka 1DLP
    -> Three Chip DLPs aka 3DLP

    While the LCD projectors have 3 LCD chips and the LCoS projectors have either 3 DILA chips / 3 SXRD chips they simply do not match the best single chip DLPs let alone the 3 chip high end DLPs.

    A picture projected on the screen comprises of many aspects. Colour, uniformity, grayscale, lumens (brightness), contrast etc.

    LCoS as mentioned before has advanced very rapidly in the last few years and it is reaching close to the CRT levels of contrast ratio. For brightness and big screens 3DLP is the way to go.

    The pop off the screen and 3 dimensionality is unmatched.


    DLP is the technology by Texas Instruments. They have a monopoly on this technology and the chips come from them.

    Single chip DLP has only 1 chip. It is basically a colour wheel that rotates very quickly. This is susceptible to rainbows seen on the screen. If you ever venture out to see a projector you may come across a single chip DLP which can start from $1,500 and go up to $28,000 you should try to audition fast moving scenes on the screen and see if you spot any rainbows. Some people are very sensitive to them and can cause headaches. It's not like the rainbows are there all the time but they can be seen and cause headaches for some.

    The best SINGLE CHIP DLPs have started to introduce projectors where rainbows can't be seen so this is becoming a non-issue nowadays. But the cost of admission for such 1DLPs is north of $10,000.

    There are some really good single chip DLPs from BenQ, Planar, Marantz and Sim2 in increasing order of quality.
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    Single Chip DLPs
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    These are the 1 chip DLP flagship models of each company.

    BenQ has a W5000 model which is $1,500 on the street. Planar has smaller models. Sim2 is a high end brand so even their lowest is at $5,000.

    Only Sim2 out of this lot makes high end 3 chip DLP projects starting at $35,000!!


    BenQ W10000 --- $7,000 [not sure about the latest price]





    Planar PD8150 --- $8,000





    Marantz VP-11S2 --- $15,000





    Sim2 HT-3000e --- $17,000

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    Default High End DLPs

    Sim2 is an Italian company so you can see the stylish casing in their designs. Planar is American. Marantz is Japanese and part of the big conglomerate which is D & M Holdings [Denon & Marantz Holdings]. BenQ is Taiwanese.

    You also have Optoma and Sharp making DLPs. Sharp's flagship model called Z20000 or something like that is also quite a projector.

    Runco (owned by Planar) also has some 1DLPs but the good ones are really expensive and mostly 3DLPs.

    projectiondesign [both words are supposed to be joined and each alphabet is supposed to be in lower case although on the internet you will see it differently] is a Norwegian company that used to OEM [original equipment manufacturer] for other companies but have entered the consumer market as well.

    Digital Projection International is an English company based in Manchester and one of the big names in front projection. Really high end stuff.

    More on this later.
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    Default The Scandinavian Connection

    Scandinavia is normally very low profile but they have their fair share of technology gurus sitting quietly and doing their stuff. Personally speaking I really admire Scandinavians because they are not only a knowledgeable lot but also skilled workers with the drive for perfection entrenched in them.

    I will be touching up companies from various parts of the world once we revisit all this but for now let's take it one by one. projectiondesign as mentioned in my previous post has gotten involved into the residential consumer area. They make very high grade projectors. It's not only that. PD owners also make the $1 million dollar Koenigsegg supercar shown below. It's made of carbon fibre and has enough horses to sway the Titanic in the other direction and preventing it from hitting the iceberg. Once again, the car is low profile but it is a beast and only made on order. You can see a glimpse of this beauty in the movie RED LINE. It appears at the very end.



    It doesn't end there. The PD owner also has a fetish for speed boats and some of the world's best powerboats are also made especially for enthusiasts over there. You will excuse me for I don't have the necessary knowledge on powerboats.

    projectiondesign PJs start from around $5,000 but the real good stuff comes at around $10,000 with the frog shaped horrendous looking projector below. It is a startling performer and when you are watching the movies you won't be looking at this one eyed frog so you can forgive it for its looks.

    PD have recently got a dedicated line of HT projectors called AVIELO. The Frog as I like to call it is called Avielo Spectra.



    The pro version is called M25 and it has a 3D sterescopic lens which means that it is capable of 3D which will be the next avenue for cinema. You will see more 3D titles coming out this year and some high end cinemas are already revamping to embrace this new technology. I will touch up on this later as we progress.

    The current jewel in the crown for PD is the Avielo Optix. I am a big fan of this projector not so much for its picture quality but for its engineering concept. It is unique in its architecture. No other projector in the world currently has what this beast has.

    DLP PJs are usually single chip or three chip. The single chippers have one colour wheel. This unique PJ has TWO colour wheels, two lamps (for more brightness) so technically speaking it is more than a single chip. It is something like a 2 chip which is not a proper term but in architecture and dynamics it is.

    The cost also reflects this as this projector is in the vicinity of $28,000 smackaroons! The highest price single chip DLP would be around $20,000 or less. The entry level 1080p 3DLP machine which I will cover next starts at $33,000. However, this projector can drive larger screens ... 12 feet - 14 feet whereas the entry level 3DLP is ideal for screen sizes up to 11 feet. 12 feet if you want to really stretch it.

    3DLP will produce a better image.

    Here is a picture of the Avielo Optix:



    You get a choice of six lenses to choose from and all the goodies one would find on a professional grade projector. This projector is also designed for 24/7 operation which is a plus point. I'm a fan. And I'm not taking a page from the Mandarin Oriental Hotels ads. I'm definitely not a fan of that Hotel Chain. Rip-offs in my book. Cold reception.

    If you go to Singapore, go to the Pan Pacific VIP floor. That's the best one. It's not on Orchard Road but it is only 15 mins by car from it. Plus, it is walking distance from the Adelphi which is an electronics high-end haven! Seriously, the only good thing I saw at the Mandarin Oriental on Orchard Road was the highest grade escorts getting their butts into a 760 Li for some customer and Mr. Nasty Time! The meals, breakfast, amenities is a rip-off. You won't get your money's worth.

    projectiondesign also supplies projectors to England's finest and one of the world's top most projector brands i.e. Digital Projection International or DPI. Since DPI is a much larger company they get their low and mid end PJs made from PD. Don't be fooled when I say low or mid end. It's a different world when it has DPI on it! The high end DPIs rock.
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    Default The Major Players - Visual Perfection

    There is no such thing as perfection as there is always room for improvement. At one point in time one can reach very close to perfection where you can feel it but there is always that small crevice where something can be done to improve upon it.

    Guys .... read this carefully .... I am not kidding when I say that you will instantaneously co-relate with the word "jaw-dropping" if and when you come across an image so real, so beautiful, so enveloping that your mind will simply refuse to register the reality that your eyes are seeing because the mind simply can not perceive at that moment what message your sense of sight is passing on to the brain.

    I can tell you from personal experience that years ago a simple $10,000 PJ blew me away when I was getting into this. And now I am so critical that even the $28,000 PJ needs to have the minerals to impress me or get a nod of approval. And then we have these behemoths that project and image which can make you appreciate the technology, research, implementation and science behind it to yourself as you smile on the inside and outside. You will get goosebumps.

    No escaping it.


    So dear friends, the major players in this are in alphabetical order with the country of origin listed:

    1. BARCO [Belgium]
    2. CHRISTIE DIGITAL [USA]
    3. DIGITAL PROJECTION [UK]
    4. RUNCO [USA]
    5. SIM2 [Italia]

    There are others but these companies are touching our hearts with visual imagery so stunning that it leaves you spellbound.


    BARCO
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    Primarily involved in commercial grade systems. Their projectors are installed in some of the most high end places known to man where cost is not even part of the equation. Barco has been acquired by a French group called T.E.C. but they continue to run as an independent entity.


    Barco DLP-1200 ---- ~ $100,000




    It is a professional grade projector for cinemas but enthusiasts get it installed at home as well. It can project images up to 12 m [40ft] wide. So, if you don't want to burn your retinae it is best to project on an image at least 15 feet wide. Or simply wear your sunglasses to the HT.


    Christie Digital
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    Christie mainly focuses on the consumer division with plenty of competing projectors in the cinema market with Barco who is a big player there. Their latest batch of projectors i.e. HD6K-M and HD10K-M are the rave and with the feature set have been endorsed by many. Christie's projectors are not very user friendly and not ideal for home use but they have worked on it a lot. Christie supplies projectors to Runco who are primarily a home owner brand and therefore do the necessary tweaking and improvements to make their PJs user-friendly.

    Christie HD10K-M -- ~ $100,000





    Digital Projection
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    Digital Projection was the first company to introduce a 3DLP projector in 1977. Yes, that's right. They got a deal for 350 cinema screens in India which was a massive project.

    Here's a glimpse of the Lightning Reference. I think the name says it all!! ~ $100,000




    Runco
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    Runco's flagship is the Signature Cinema 1. It is pricey because unlike the above PJs it is a 4K resolution projector.

    1080p is called 2K and the blu-rays we see are encoded in 2K. We don't have 4K content as yet and may not see it for the next 5-8 years but Runco went ahead and introduced this model which takes your normal 2K signal and upscales it to 4K! Sony, JVC and the JVC clone Meridian also have 4K models but they are LCoS projectors while the Runco is the only DLP that I know of.

    SC-1 - $250,000





    VX-44D - $90,000



    Runco is untouchable in customer service. When you buy a high end Runco they give you world class customer service. Plus, Runco makes projectors strictly for the home user so they are specifically tweaked for that purpose. That is an advantage. Planar now owns Runco as Sam sold it to Planar last year while he smokes stogies in the Bahamas!

    You see an anamorphic lens attached in front of the VX-44. Runco was the first to introduce this to the HT. They have steered HT to where it is today. A very big contributor IMO. They've always dared to be different and the leader.



    Sim2
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    Sim2 is the current leader in selling 3DLP projectors primarily because of the price of admission and fantastic price/performance ratio. Their entry level 3DLP is the smallest chassis in the world. It is called the C3X 1080. After that comes the very recently announced C3X Lumis and then there is the flagship HT5000E

    C3X 1080 - $33,000




    C3X Lumis - $38,000

    Pictures are available but I can't post them as yet because they are personal pics. It is like the 1080 above but slightly larger with a separate box.


    HT5000E - ~$ 70,000





    Meridian
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    Meridian used to be primarily an audio company but got into video in the last 3-4 years or so. They don't manufacture their PJs and their line is limited [i.e 2-3 models only]. Their new PJ is getting rave reviews as well. It is basically a JVC projector but Meridian has made quite a bit of modifications to make it customized for the home user. It is beautiful PJ IMO

    810 Video Reference System - $185,000






    I will cover Meridian in detail in the audio section. Their gear is admittedly eye candy. Very elegant and beautiful classy British design and engineering.
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