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yourmood
7th April 2005, 21:19
Uefa Champions League
Quarter Final - 2nd Leg
:inter: :milan:


Ur opinions?

Yasser
7th April 2005, 21:20
No opinions, close the thread and boycot football :D

GattusoKing
7th April 2005, 22:22
:D

Rui time, IMO. Time to choke the midfield, retain the ball and play an identical game as we did at Old Trafford. Keep the ball away from Max and the gameplan should work a treat.

Elchillum
7th April 2005, 22:45
:D

Rui time, IMO. Time to choke the midfield, retain the ball and play an identical game as we did at Old Trafford. Keep the ball away from Max and the gameplan should work a treat.

ow what a weak thing to say from such a smart person as you simon ...

---> IMO kaka should play as he's suspended on sunday ... rui for me can play though if we use one striker to keep ball possession ... i hope for that scenario in second half becuz that means we play 2 strikers and already scored a goal ;)



-------------Dida-------------
-Cafu--Nesta--Stam--Maldini-
--------------Pirlo------------
---Ambro----------Seedorf----
--------Kaka-----------------
-----Inzaghi------Shevchenko-

Competitive formation IMO ... Cafu offensive ... ambro watches an eye on the right ... maldini LB (stays at the back) ... + pirlo ... i really hope that ambro will play a great game becuz he deserves some credit!

cheers :beer:

GattusoKing
8th April 2005, 00:16
The topic's been discussed to death in more threads than I care to remember, but Max makes me nervous. Filling the void left by Gattuso is a huge responsibility, especially for a man who's rash in the challenge and relatively inexperienced when it comes to starting BIG games. I just hope we can bypass him, which is why Rui must play, IMO.

Danny
8th April 2005, 00:46
Dhorasoo for me. Both a winger and a defensive midfielder. He's born to fill the role.

Yasser
8th April 2005, 01:24
For this game Xmas tree is a must IMO.

4321 to control the game and kill of the game..

:)

yourmood
8th April 2005, 01:25
i dont think we need to play with our full back Cafu Nesta Stam and Maldini, imo we rest on of them Maldini or Stam and play with K.K.

in the Mid Rui for Kaka 100% i dont see any problem with Seedorf, Rino and Prilo

in forward Sheva Cerspo or Sheva Tom but if Inzaghi fit i hope we see him

Yasser
8th April 2005, 01:40
I'd rest Stam and not Maldini.

Stam got already 1 yellow card, Maldini got 0. :p

But then again, Stam when he plays = 100% clean sheet!!!

yourmood
8th April 2005, 01:54
any way stam is suspended :D

yourmood
8th April 2005, 01:58
oops :D Rino is suspended not Stam :D

Yasser
8th April 2005, 01:58
Nope Mr Ahmed.

Stam is suspended in Serie A but not in the CL.

You and your fvcked up sources :p

Yasser
8th April 2005, 02:00
Ah good you fixed your post :p

VUGAR
8th April 2005, 08:07
I simply dont want to think that Stam can miss a game if he gets a yellow card...but he must start as Adriano most likely gonna be back....

Elchillum
8th April 2005, 12:35
The topic's been discussed to death in more threads than I care to remember, but Max makes me nervous. Filling the void left by Gattuso is a huge responsibility, especially for a man who's rash in the challenge and relatively inexperienced when it comes to starting BIG games. I just hope we can bypass him, which is why Rui must play, IMO.

Dhorassoo isnt fit ... i heard he's in the fitness room ...

Ambro is fysically all right + good header ... difficult to play against him ... he's not gattuso but it's rather unfair to untrust him ...

cheers :beer:

yourmood
9th April 2005, 14:32
Maldini to miss Euro derby?


Paolo Maldini is now a major doubt to feature in Tuesday’s Champions’ League decider with Inter, as Milan face a series of setbacks.

The captain will sit in the stands for today’s Serie A encounter with Brescia after suffering a left thigh injury and it’s reported there is a good chance he won’t recover in time for the derby.


Maldini is joined on the sidelines by Kakha Kaladze, who has continuing ankle problems, while Gennaro Gattuso will certainly miss the Euro showdown with a one-match ban.


This will force Carlo Ancelotti into a series of changes, as Giuseppe Pancaro should step into the left-back role with Jaap Stam again joining Alessandro Nesta in the centre, although 38-year-old Alessandro ‘Billy’ Costacurta is another option for that flank.


Massimo Ambrosini is the natural understudy to midfield battler Gattuso, though the lack of protection offered by these adjustments could see Milan revert back to the Christmas tree formation with Kaka and Manuel Rui Costa feeding Andriy Shevchenko.


The Rossoneri have a comfortable 2-0 lead from the first leg, but are still reeling from last year’s Champions’ League quarter-final exit, where they threw away a 4-1 result to go out 5-4 on aggregate.



http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/apr9d.html

yourmood
9th April 2005, 14:39
Adriano set for derby return

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/apr8e.html

VUGAR
10th April 2005, 20:11
that is fokin bad!!!!:mad::(

KONDR
10th April 2005, 23:13
Oh come one, he is gonna be unfit... Like RVN...

pas
10th April 2005, 23:40
so what?even he is FIT, dont we have best defence?! someone of our defence will have im in his pocket. last time it was nesta. this time it will b stam.

Santi
11th April 2005, 03:13
I heard that there is a real possibility that Maldini will be ready for this game for Milan. I wouldn't want to go into this game without the two leaders of the team, since Gattuso is not avaliable. Hopefully Ambro will have the game of his life.

I would also like to see the Christmas tree formation for this game, try to control the match, and put them away on the breaks. An early goal would surely end this thing.

Qasá
11th April 2005, 03:29
sheva to be captain then? please no billy to play...please...i dont want ambro captain either....its gotta be sheva :)

ac_champs
11th April 2005, 14:12
For this game Xmas tree is a must IMO.

4321 to control the game and kill of the game..

:)

that's what we tried to do in the league derby and got totally outplayed.... 4-3-1-2 for me....

dida
cafu nesta stam maldini(Pancaro)
dhorasso pirlo seedorf
kaka
pippo sheva

VUGAR
11th April 2005, 14:39
the absence of Rino makes me worry......:(..IMO Max gonna fail this game big time!..and fielding Rui costa who cannot simply run makes me worry even more!!!!!!!!!

Elchillum
11th April 2005, 15:47
just go easy fellows ... we just need concentration for this game and that's it ... inter will play their whole season in this game so we must fight like 11 lions ;) and keep our heads cool!

cheers :beer:

yourmood
11th April 2005, 16:07
sheva to be captain then? please no billy to play...please...i dont want ambro captain either....its gotta be sheva :)


:) its really nice to see Sheva captaion in this derby but i think Carlo will find a place for Billy in the LB or CB

yourmood
11th April 2005, 16:13
MALDINI: 'In Champions League the only head-to-head with Inter'

4/11/2005
MILAN - Paolo Maldini spoke in Corriere della Sera about what will be his 50th derby. He said: 'For me the derby has always been a beautiful game to play, but its weight has changed a bit with time passing. In the first three years, when Milan aimed at placing in the top five, the derby was the peak of the season. Then, as the targets have increased, it has become an important and much-felt game. But one of the many to be played. Even because there has never been a head-to-head between Inter and us for the Scudetto. So, the only derbies in which we compete with Inter for something are these in the Champions League.'

acmilan.com

yourmood
11th April 2005, 21:01
Maldini will make Milan Euro derby

http://www.sportnetwork.net/main/s342/st70819.htm?fromrss=1

:1244: :282:

yourmood
11th April 2005, 21:14
Maldini fit and wants early goal to sink Inter


MILAN, April 11 (Reuters) - AC Milan captain Paolo Maldini has shrugged off a thigh injury to play in Tuesday's Champions League quarter-final, second leg tie with city rivals Inter Milan and has urged his team mates to go for the kill.
Maldini had to sit out Milan's 1-1 draw with Brescia in Serie A on Saturday but after training on Monday he said: "I feel quite good and I am available".

Milan lead 2-0 from the first leg and the absence of an 'away goal' for Inter gives the Italian champions an even bigger advantage.

"If we get a goal then they have to score four," said Maldini.

"We know that they will try and get off to a strong start but we have the same idea. We have a significant lead but we also know that it could be cut back in a very short time.

"For that reason we have to go out there and try and win the game and not get involved in any calculating."

Milan coach Carlo Ancelotti said an early goal for Milan would end the tie.

"We want to get a goal straight away and then that would be a decisive blow," he said. "We have to approach the match in the same way as the first leg because that is what will cause them problems.

"An away goal should sort out qualification and so we want to get one as soon as we can -- that will be our aim," Ancelotti added.

Inter expect to have Brazilian striker Adriano back for the return after he missed last week's tie with a knee injury and Ancelotti said a close eye would have to be kept on the prolific South American.

"If he plays we will have to keep a watch on him but anyway they have other strikers who could cause us problems," he said.

Milan need no reminding that at the same stage of the Champions League last season they threw away a 4-1 lead against Deportivo Coruna going out after a 4-0 second leg defeat in Spain.

Ancelotti said it would not happen again when they face Inter at the San Siro stadium the two clubs share.

"It is a different situation than the one we found ourselves in at the Riazor stadium (in La Coruna) last year. We don't feel that this is an away game for us, we feel at home. The San Siro is our stadium," he added.



http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldFootballNews&storyID=8144947&section=news&src=rss/uk/worldFootballNews

Santi
12th April 2005, 04:35
Seems like there is a lot of tension before this game. This will be the toughest game for Milan in a while, the guys will surely come out and give everything and more, and be totally concentrated, because inter are basically going to put everything on this game...this is their season.

Hopefully the defence will continue to be rock solid, and if Sheva and the guys can put a couple of goals away...it will make the game a lot easier to follow. ;)


FORZA MILAN!!!!!

Filipez
12th April 2005, 12:26
1goal is enough IMO. then they need to score 4!!!!! hmmmm that reminds me at the depor game last year, but that wont happen agains inter i guess, last year we thought we were into the next round after the home game.

VUGAR
12th April 2005, 13:06
Adriano is definitely not 100% fit...that should nearly level him up to Cruz...Martins worries me the most as this dude is fast and can outrun any of our defenders. I am still worried about fielding Max instead of RIno who is suspended...but we have no alternatives.....I wont survive another deportivo incident.... We must kill their game. An early goal for them will be disasterous for us.....If we score an early one we gonna kill em!

artan
12th April 2005, 13:18
Adriano is definitely not 100% fit...that should nearly level him up to Cruz...Martins worries me the most as this dude is fast and can outrun any of our defenders. I am still worried about fielding Max instead of RIno who is suspended...but we have no alternatives.....I wont survive another deportivo incident.... We must kill their game. An early goal for them will be disasterous for us.....If we score an early one we gonna kill em!


right, thats all what we need, early goal ,. and they are down,as inter isnt capable to score 4 goals! u know,in the last three games they couldnt score vs us. i dont want to underestimate them , but they are not the team to challenge Milan!


Forza Milan

I dont care who will play in the starting eleven , important i am sure even if Brocchi plays will do his best against Merda.

Haroon
12th April 2005, 17:11
UEFA Champions League
EuroDerby™
Trademarked by Diavolo - :cool:

I n t e r n a z i o n a l e F C Vs. AC Milan

Stadio San Siro, Milano - ITALIA

--- Quarter-Final - Second Leg ---

-> First Leg: Milan won 2-0 [Stam, Sheva] <-

-> Tuesday (April 12, 2005) <-

-> Kick-off -> 19:45 (UK Time): ITV 2 <-


PREVIEW
=======

The first leg 6 days ago culminated in Milan putting in one of the ruthlessly efficient displays in the UCL to take down city rivals Inter in a convincing 2-0 win. This campaign has number 6 and number 7 hovering at every corner. :devil:

The Devil's Den had 11 Leoni on the pitch and it had Lions in the stands of the Devil's Den. It roared and the roar was heard for miles! :shades: It was a pleasure to be there.

Now the roles are reversed! Inter will be the home side and thus will have a far bigger number of supporters. The stadium will have more Nerazzurri who will back their team to eliminate Milan by putting in the most convincing performance in this tournament so far.

Milan will be wearing the exact same kit they wore on that dramatic night in Milano two seasons ago when Inter were knocked out in the first EuroDerby second leg. The Red & Black jersey, white shorts and white socks! :devil: Brilliant choice to choose that kit. I would've done the same! The Ghost of two seasons ago. The images of two seasons ago! It will be vivid and it will surely give flashbacks to the Nerazzurri!

German referee Markus Merk takes charge of the game! He is a strict ref who takes no nonsense. Milan & Inter have never lost a game when Merk was in charge. Inter has two wins and a draw in the UCL while Milan has two wins. Interesting proposition.

Mancini thinks that Deportivo La Coruna won 4-1 in La Coruna. :D He has done his homework. :devil: He reminds me of Alex Ferguson and his preparation. You just don't expect mistakes like that from top class coaches who have done their preparation.

Inter is going for broke and wants that elusive early goal to make a tie of it. A sold-out San Siro with the help of 20-25000 Milanisti will be rocking! The atmosphere electric for the determinant of which part of Milano will continue their quest for Europe's greatest club trophy!



I N T E R

Inter put in a very good performance in the Milan Derby but lost that game. They put in a good performance in the first half of the EuroDerby but still didn't create enough chances to get that goal. Inter has not scored against Milan this season (0-0, 1-0, 2-0). They have been on the receiving end. Giacinto Facchetti said after the first leg that no matter what happens this Milan side always seem to be prepared for anything! :devil: Grande Carlo! You da man! Inter have themselves a mountain to climb after going down 2-0 in the first leg. It is almost the perfect result only pulled back by the fact that it is a DERBY and all bets are off in a Derby. An early goal by Inter can change the complexion of the tie from one way to competitive.

The worry for Inter would be whether they can block out a Milan offence that threatens to get that away goal and virtually seal the tie! Inter is strong offensively and good in midfield but their problematic area is the defence that can be caught napping. They can't make a mistake in this encounter. It's lights out if they make a mistake. :eyepatch:



M I L A N

Milan has already not conceded any goals since Matchday 6 and that can give hope to Inter that Milan will eventually concede a goal. It is one of the hardest things to achieve in football. That is to maintain clean sheets in the most difficult phase (knock-out). The four horsemen at the back are doing a mighty fine job! :star: The accusations of a grand-daddy defence are not seen on the forums. :finger: Don't hate, appreciate. :cool: The side has that 'ominous' feeling about it. World class sides are built from the back. Saying that it hasn't achieved anything this season and at the end of the day you need trophies to show for the hard-work throughout the season. Entertaining doesn't get you the trophies. Winning does because 'tis all about winning at the end of the day when everything is said and done. :stuckup:

Milan risks to leak in that goal this time around. It will be a mammoth and monumental task to keep Inter at bay I feel. They will come hard and the law of averages suggests that they will get the goal that they crave for. After all Mancini has been talking about getting a goal all along and not ONCE has he mentioned that he wants to win the tie. It's about getting a goal all the time.


Probable Starting Line-Up(s)
=====================

---------------
---> Inter <---
---------------

-> 4-4-2 flat formation


--------------------------Toldo-----------------------

-----Zanetti------Cordoba------Mihajlovic-------Favalli--

-Van der Meyde---C. Zanetti----Cambiasso-------Veron--

-------------------Martins------Adriano-----------------


1. Stankovic can't make it for this game. Inter is going to be playing like English opposition. Using the flanks with two hard men in the middle. They are the Italian side that plays most like an English team and Chelsea does the opposite. Inter could win the EPL and Chelsea could win the Serie A. :eekani: ;)

2. Mancini is going to start Van der Meyde to send in those crosses for Adriano to utilize. He should start Vieri instead of Martins IMO as his gameplan is revolving around spreading the Milan midfield and defence to create more space in the middle! Total genius he is and he is earning millions for making the basic mistakes in football! :rolleyes:

3. Mancini will be hoping that Sinisa and Veron have better free kicks this time and somehow Dida is unable to get to them. Dida was masterclass in the first leg! It is one of the most amazing sights to see a fully stretched Dida making a stupendous save. I could see the ones vs. Ajax & Celtic again and again. :cool: Mancini has to keep his troops mentally strong for this game. I doubt whether he has the capacity. I could do a ten times better job and that is a fact! :devil:


---------------
---> Milan <---
---------------

-> 4-4-2 diamond formation / 4-1-2-1-2


--------------------Dida---------------------

--Cafu-------Stam-------Nesta-------Maldini--

-------------------Pirlo----------------------

-----Ambrosini-----------------Seedorf--------

-------------------Kaka-----------------------

-----------Crespo--------Sheva----------------

1. Carlo Ancelotti wants to send a clear signal that the intent of his side is to get a win even though he has a healthy advantage in the first leg. That's how great minds think. Kaladze has already mentioned that we have to forget about the 2-0. This is a new game and we have to go for the win! :proud: Good man! Ancelotti has resonated the same sentiments! Nesta and Maldini have shown focus in their comments. All I can say is that I am fully satisfied by my team's preparation. No stone has been left unturned for the preparation, mindset and approach. :cool:

2. Ambrosini will have a tough job to mark either Veron or VdM who will be changing flanks. My guess would be that Veron will be on Ambrosini's side and used to cut inside to take shots on goal ala Seedorf. Gattuso has more work rate than Ambro but Ambro is a no nonsense hard guy who will not let anybody breeze past him.

3. The key thing is to keep things in check for the first 25 mins of the game. A lot more concentration is required in the first 25 mins of this tie. If the concentration is there and the Milan bunch is focused then the ride can be easy. It will be tough nonetheless.


Tactics
======

--------------------------
--- Mancini ---
--------------------------

If there was pressure on Mancini to deliver in the first leg then now he is in a Cauldron of Fire. And a cauldron from hell it will be tonight! :stuckup:
I don't think he has a gameplan. What happens will be due to the brilliance of his personnel and that will come down to Adriano .. the man who dragged Inter along to get to this point in the Serie A and the UCL.

[I]A) Last time I posted whether they have enough composure to get revenge. The result would suggest that they don't have it.
B) "Adriano is missing and he has got the bucket load of goals and assists. Mancini will need to find a way to play without his biggest strength that is the Brasilian Beast. Milan did it without Shev and now Inter will try to do it without Adriano." The quoted part is what I posted last time. I don't think I need to elaborate on it any longer. The difference is there to see.
C) Inter wants a goal. I haven't heard about the win. The talk is about the early goal. Where's the focus? Where's the clarity in objective? The objective should be that Inter has to go out and try to score 4 goals at least even though it is difficult! That's the objective and that is what the mindset should've been but no ... it's to get an early goal.

---------------------------
--- Ancelotti [M I L A N] ---
---------------------------

Ancelotti's Grande Milan has done some great things this season. Now he has the opportunity to give Inter a final curtain call in this competition. Ancelotti was not happy with the draw but what amazing preparation for the side! :cool: I wish him the best! He could become one of the greatest coaches in our history!

A) He knows how to approach a game. Like any side his side does make mistakes as well. The Deportivo game's scars are still fresh and his players know what to expect. He did mention that although his side are playing away but the San Siro is OUR stadium! :devil: Carlo Carlo .... you beauty. :)
B) Van der Meyde and Adriano need to be kept in check. A changed formation with a different style being adopted. They will use the wings like an English side so it is important to be strong in the air. The Devil blesses us with the introduction of Ambrosini who is one of the best in the air just as Inter is changing their system for wingplay. :stuckup:
C) Score the goal, continue to pound them and do a EuroDerby double over them.


KEY BATTLES
==========

C Zanetti Vs. Seedorf

Martins Vs. Pirlo

Adriano Vs. Nesta

Veron Vs. Ambrosini

Cordoba Vs. Crespo

Van der Meyde Vs. Maldini

Cambiasso Vs. Kaka


KEY MEN
=======

Adriano
-------

The Brasilian Beast is back. All signs point to him starting and he would want to put his signature on this game! He is strong, tough, fast and one of the hardest strikers of the ball. He suffered against Milan last time he played. Alexander The Great conquered him. Superb battle in prospect. He scored a hat-trick in his last European outing and will be the key for Inter to make a match of it.


Sheva
------

The Stealth Bomber continued his brilliant run against Inter scoring after having an average game by his usual high standards. And he scored with his head which is an ominous sign that he has shaken off his injury. It will be the first time that the Stealth Bomber and Brasilian Beast face-off in a EuroDerby. :shades: The Stealth Bomber is the world's best striker and Adriano wants that title. It is a big game and crucial game so Adriano will want to take the spotlight while the Bomber knows that a strike by him will go a long way in deciding the tie.

Hero Watch
=========

Inter: Adriano, Veron & Cambiasso

Adriano and Veron have done well in this campaign and Cambiasso has given them balance! They are the three most important players in the squad.

Milan: Nesta, Pirlo, Gattuso, Stam & Seedorf

Ringhio is suspended for this game. Pirlo is proving to be the most important player in the Milan squad! I personally think that he holds the key to how far will Milan progress! The Architect is a man obsessed to unlock the doors one by one. Added Stam's name as he is coming into his own! It is encouraging to see so many in the HERO WATCH LIST. :cool:


Prediction

I can't say that the first leg result suprised me because I did predict that exact same scoreline! We are just better prepared than Inter. Inter is no slouch but they just got drawn against the wrong team at the wrong time. This Inter side is a few steps away from becoming a really really good side. The difference is that Milan is already there. Inter may well take the lead and make it a tense affair with Milan on the caution!

The QF is the stage where the most DRAMATIC results take place in the 2nd leg. I was extra relieved to see that our 2nd leg was not on Wednesday as there is slightly more pressure on that matchday. Make no mistake ... the QF 2nd leg is the stage where you have the BEST GAMES in the tournament! It may or may not happen this season as the Rd-16 had very good ties but usually the QF 2nd leg brings the best games of the tournament! This UCL has been great upto this point and it has been the TOUGHEST in European History.

I wonder if Moratti is happy that his side drew Milan? I wonder if Materazzi is busy texting Gattuso again? :stuckup: Inter wanted blood. Inter wanted revenge when the draw was made. Well all I can say is that IF YOU WANT BLOOD (You've Got It). :devil:

I've heard that snakes taste really good. Everytime I see that scene
from "Romancing the Stone" where Douglas is cooking the snake in the crashed plane, I feel like having a snake. I want a snake for dinner tonight. :nasty: :devil: Milan to get a scoring draw.

:star: Forza Milan :star:

KONDR
12th April 2005, 17:24
Great post as usual Haroon.

Like my friend said, lets CRUSH Inter our way! 0-0 :) :) :)

yourmood
12th April 2005, 17:36
KEY BATTLES
==========

C Zanetti Vs. Seedorf

Martins Vs. Pirlo

Adriano Vs. Nesta

Veron Vs. Ambrosini

Cordoba Vs. Crespo

Van der Meyde Vs. Maldini

Cambiasso Vs. Kaka




Haroon great post like always :)

in ur key battles no one will hold Sheva ?? if they will leave him free 100% he will score, am i right?

ac_champs
12th April 2005, 17:42
your posts are one of the reasons i love the champions league haroon!!! excellent as usual, i agree with every word....

keep up the good word!!!

Forza :milan:

giani_82
12th April 2005, 17:47
Always sweet to beet Inter and still we'd need more concentration to go through as this is our final objective. Gosh, I hated the way we played in the first leg. May be a goal in the first 30 mins for us would give us wings and we'll once and for all show the interisti which is the better side of Milano.

Filipez
12th April 2005, 17:52
very nice preview haroon! as always :D

Haroon
12th April 2005, 18:56
Haroon great post like always :)

in ur key battles no one will hold Sheva ?? if they will leave him free 100% he will score, am i right?

There's no use in holding him down mate! :D He's the Stealth Bomber. When he's coming ... it's best to duck or move over. ;) The Greatest striker playing today!

yourmood
12th April 2005, 20:07
All signs point to a Milan win

MILAN: Every form guide available suggests that AC Milan’s 2-0 lead from the first leg of their Champions League quarter-final with city rivals Inter should be enough to see the Italian champions through to the last four.

But Inter Milan, who hope to have their Brazilian striker Adriano fit enough to play from the start, insist they are capable of producing an upset at the San Siro today.

Inter have not won any of the last nine meetings between the two teams in Serie A and the Champions League and in the three games this season have yet to score a single goal against Carlo Ancelotti’s side.

They will have to score three times against Milan to progress yet Milan haven’t conceded more than one goal in a Serie A or European game since their 5-2 victory over Lecce on Jan 6.

Indeed Milan have conceded just three goals in their entire Champions League campaign so far this season.


rest of the news here (http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2005/4/12/sports/10658607&sec=sports)

Yasser
12th April 2005, 20:09
When you got Stam and Nesta, there's no way in hell a team can beat us :)

yourmood
12th April 2005, 20:11
yassi its not about betting us let them score more than a goal 1st then think to beat us ;)

Yasser
12th April 2005, 20:14
Can't beat us = can't score against us.

GattusoKing
12th April 2005, 21:14
Official line-ups;

INTER: Toldo; J.Zanetti, Cordoba, Materazzi, Favalli; Van der Meyde, C.Zanetti, Veron, Cambiasso, Kily Gonzalez; Adriano

MILAN: Dida; Cafu, Nesta, Stam, Maldini; Ambrosini, Pirlo, Seedorf; Kaka; Crespo, Shevchenko


Forza Milan!!!!!!!!!!!! :diavolett :kingnew:

yourmood
12th April 2005, 21:16
so Van der Meyde and Kily 2 wings and one forward

like there last game in Serie A

Yasser
12th April 2005, 21:18
I wonder who wants to win this one, us or them :p

WHat a stupid move by Mancio, benching MARTINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GattusoKing
12th April 2005, 21:28
Very much Cuper-esque. Makes no sense to me, but I'm sure he thinks he knows what he's doing.

yourmood
12th April 2005, 21:33
Live: Champions League

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/4437303.stm

Filipez
12th April 2005, 22:02
****ing espn doestn broadcast the game, now they broadcast bayern chelsea, but they did not last week, back then it was milan inter :( sad!!

kuba1899
12th April 2005, 22:24
goooooooollll sheeeeevvvvaaaaa

giani_82
12th April 2005, 22:25
Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal!
Shevaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Bayman
12th April 2005, 22:27
OK thats it :D :)

Yasser
12th April 2005, 22:41
World class goal and shot by the SHEV!

NESTA got booked, misses the next game!

ac_champs
12th April 2005, 22:43
the three most infulencial players on our side in the first half were sheva(for obvious reasons), stam (who again is the heart of our defence and the last line who never fails!!) and pirlo who is our master of midfield!!!

Forza Milan!!!

Ian
12th April 2005, 22:44
Nesta's yellow was a disgrace! replays showed he actually blocked the ball!!!!!!

Sheva's strike was absolutely fantastic though-big players win big games ;)

VUGAR
12th April 2005, 22:55
so far we are playing as we should! Forza Milan!

VUGAR
12th April 2005, 23:00
adriano will be subbed now....

VUGAR
12th April 2005, 23:01
****...martins is in...

VUGAR
12th April 2005, 23:02
Dida is doing magics again!!!! numero uno!!!

VUGAR
12th April 2005, 23:06
inter fans already leaving a stadium....;)

VUGAR
12th April 2005, 23:09
kaka still plays **** ...:(

VUGAR
12th April 2005, 23:19
crespo out for rui

VUGAR
12th April 2005, 23:21
dida once again!

VUGAR
12th April 2005, 23:21
goal by inter...but not counted.....:p

VUGAR
12th April 2005, 23:23
bottles of water and pettards are on the field...a disgraceful action y interisti......dida is injured....

VUGAR
12th April 2005, 23:24
inter fans are SHYTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ian
12th April 2005, 23:27
FILTHY F***ING inter FANS-DEGENERATES THE LOT OF THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire

ac_champs
12th April 2005, 23:28
it's a disgrace!! imo inter will get a hefty fine and hopefully will get banned from european competitions next year and maybe even longer!! it's just like the roma game!! a total disgrace....

Elchillum
12th April 2005, 23:28
they should ban inter for 4 home games next season! incredible! bastards! ... inter fans, juve fans ... roma fans ... lazio fans ... all $hit!

Milanista for life!

cheers :beer:

ac_champs
12th April 2005, 23:29
juve fans arent that bad... but inter, roma and lazio fans are just horrible...

VUGAR
12th April 2005, 23:30
guys...now back to 15 mins of bayern vs chelsky game...:) whem Markus fields the teams back to san siro...:p

Elchillum
12th April 2005, 23:31
juve aint that bad! they are whiners + look liverpool-juve! says enough!

really really cowards inter fans ... getting angry with the goalie while their own team is $hit!

cheers :beer:

Ian
12th April 2005, 23:31
Didn't those filthy s(umbags throw bananas at Dida before? let's hope they get a hefty match ban and a huge fine as well! I can't believe that they actually cheered when poor Dida was hit. They are worse than despicable, total lowlife s(um who don't deserve to even walk God's great Earth!

ac_champs
12th April 2005, 23:32
as our brave rossoneri get off the pitch the fu*kin interisti keep on throwing bottles at them!!!! that is just anti - football and the flares just keep on raining down on the already bad pitch at the san siro...

VUGAR
12th April 2005, 23:32
by the way..1-2 for chelsky...:p...

Elchillum
12th April 2005, 23:33
at inter there are a lot of right fans ... they are together with lazio ... nah, thank god im not an inter fan!

inter fůcked italian football today while milan and juve did all the great things to bring it up to a certain level! ... disgrace!

cheers :beer:

ac_champs
12th April 2005, 23:34
i think that merck is stopping the game...

Nicolas
12th April 2005, 23:34
This is the most dispicable thing I have seen for a long time...
What a day, My birthday and all I want is to see my beloved team play, and instead I see these scum, this lowest lifeform on earth, these inbreads attack one of the players I love the most Dida, and see how their planned attack out of frustration puts such a dark mark on this match...

I am lost for words, no words can describe how angry I am with the inter fans....I don´t hate people but it´s close now...

Ian
12th April 2005, 23:34
Doesn't it make you all feel proud to be Milanisti?-we don't need to stoop to that level. If we lose we can take it-you would have thought after losing game after game they would be used to losing by now!

ac_champs
12th April 2005, 23:35
happy birthday nic... at least we know that milan will go thru and inter will get fu(ked...

VUGAR
12th April 2005, 23:35
nicolas...inter fans are not humans....

Elchillum
12th April 2005, 23:37
happy birthday nicolas :) ...

cheers :beer:

ac_champs
12th April 2005, 23:37
and the incredible thing is that not a single rossoneri fan left the stadium while most of the interisti is leaving...

Elchillum
12th April 2005, 23:38
we can stay there ooooooooooooooooollllll night long ;)

cheers :beer:

VUGAR
12th April 2005, 23:38
any thoughts guys where police is????

giani_82
12th April 2005, 23:38
Yeah, a real champ knows how to lose. These imbicils don't deserve to be called human beings

Elchillum
12th April 2005, 23:40
yeah where is the police? ... when a guy like me enters san siro i got checked even for objects in my wallet :o ...

****ing bastards! **** police **** interisti!

btw game will go ahead in five mins (from calciomercato)

cheers :beer:

VUGAR
12th April 2005, 23:41
bayern has leveled up 2-2....

Ian
12th April 2005, 23:41
and the incredible thing is that not a single rossoneri fan left the stadium while most of the interisti is leaving...

In all fairness they are probably the decent fans who do not want to be involved in these disgraceful actions. I actually feel sorry for Inter.

ac_champs
12th April 2005, 23:42
yeah markus merck has decided to continue and will restart at 22:40...

Ian
12th April 2005, 23:43
Happy Birthday Nicolas :) sorry it had to be spoilt like this-but at least we can hold our heads high ;)

Nicolas
12th April 2005, 23:44
Thanx to all of you guys for your congrats:)

I just read some of the inter fans´s comments and some of them actually think that this dispicable act is right because they feel that some of the refs decisions went against them....

This just infuriates me even more!

VUGAR
12th April 2005, 23:45
some stupid interisti bastards have thrown their own keys from home on the pitch...LOL..now how will this bastards get back to their home...:p

giani_82
12th April 2005, 23:45
3:2

ac_champs
12th April 2005, 23:45
i have a feeling that when the game will be restarted and when i guess that dida will be replaced by abiatti the fu(kin interisti won't stop the throwing of bottles and firecrackers...

VUGAR
12th April 2005, 23:46
sorry for being late...but happy birthday Nicolas!!!

ac_champs
12th April 2005, 23:46
you would expect merk to switch the fields in which the goallies are... that way abbiati won't get hit....

Ian
12th April 2005, 23:47
some stupid interisti bastards have thrown their own keys from home on the pitch...LOL..now how will this bastards get back to their home...:p

Homes? cages more like :p

VUGAR
12th April 2005, 23:47
abbiati instead of dida....

Ian
12th April 2005, 23:48
you would expect merk to switch the fields in which the goallies are... that way abbiati won't get hit....

I doubt he will be able to do that-I expect though even if they did swap ends those animals would attack Toldo!

ac_champs
12th April 2005, 23:48
now milan should score just to throw salt on the open wounds and now the firecrackers are starting to get thrown again and even an umbrella...

VUGAR
12th April 2005, 23:48
would be a nice idea if we change goals...so that perdenti fans injure their own players....

Ian
12th April 2005, 23:49
I think it's been abandoned(sp?)

VUGAR
12th April 2005, 23:49
OFFICIAL...MILAN WINS!!!!!!!!! game over!!!!

Nicolas
12th April 2005, 23:49
I knew it, I goddamm knew it!

those bastards just continued throwing...

GattusoKing
12th April 2005, 23:50
Today changes our relationship with Inter.

Again, shame on the Italian police. They'll baton charge any foreigner for sneezing, but a riot among their own countrymen and they stand there and watch like women.

Ian
12th April 2005, 23:51
Fvck those animals, we've gone through, we've made history by keeping six consecutive clean sheets in the CL-and the perdenti have shown their true colours ;)

VUGAR
12th April 2005, 23:52
now fights are expected out of the stadium....

Santi
12th April 2005, 23:56
A nice 2 year ban for the merdazzuri is the least uefa could do...pathetic interisti, it's never their fault. :o

I wonder if the Milan-inter peace pact will be broken because of this.

Milan won fair and square. Too bad it had to end like that.

Yasser
12th April 2005, 23:57
Congrats. SHEVA SHEVA SHEVA DONE IT GUYS :D

Dida, Stam and Amrbosini were mosntors too.

Nesta got carded? Better let him miss the PSV game and not later the Final.

Btw - Bayern Munich are OFFICIALLY THE WORLD's UNLUCKIEST TEAM, the sum of chances missed is out of this world, bad finishing caused them the win..

GattusoKing
12th April 2005, 23:58
This is the second time now in the space of a year where I've feared that our goalkeeper had been mortally injured. It just defies belief. What's supposed to be a festival of football, the 'friendly derby', and you end up watching scenes reminiscent of Platoon.

If Inter are banned from next year's CL, they can have NO complaints.

VUGAR
13th April 2005, 00:00
grande carletto...wise decision to stop milan players running towards curva sud..as cheering could end up badly .... as it could worsen the sutiation...

Ian
13th April 2005, 00:00
Let's hope Dida is ok.

VUGAR
13th April 2005, 00:03
guys...anyone reminds Materazzi show in the beginning of the game...provocating sheva for yellow card??...PATHETIC!

yourmood
13th April 2005, 00:04
Sheva goal (http://forum.devilsmania.com/showthread.php?p=145618#post145618)

ac_champs
13th April 2005, 00:05
uefa should use this to set an example to all the teams that compete and will compete in european competitions.... this shouldn't happen in football especially not at these levels....

Santi
13th April 2005, 00:06
Just the the highlights...it's sickening, e few more inches and it could have been a disaster. Hope Dida is not hurt.

uefa needs to make an example out of inter...BIG TIME!! many years without european competion.

Fantastic goal by Sheva...always there when it counts he's always there.


FORZA MILAN!!!!!!!

VUGAR
13th April 2005, 00:08
sheva is absolutely anti-interista! :p

Ian
13th April 2005, 00:09
Apparently we're not through yet! a decision will be made tomorrow morning! WTF?

ac_champs
13th April 2005, 00:15
we are through... the match was abandoned but we had a 3-0 lead on aggregate and we will probably go through 5-0 on aggregate because we will probably be awarded the match 3-0.... that would make it a succesion of games against the merda this year: 0-0, 1-0, 2-0, 3-0!!!

Danny
13th April 2005, 00:17
I have a few things to say:

First of all the behaviour of the Interisti hooligans has left me rather sickened. Ok, the decision to chop off Cambiasso's goal was debatable, but the fans' reaction was beyond vile. They were out to maime players, officials, anyone they could.
My stomach turned when Dida was struck, though perhaps it was ill advised for him to stay in his box with the missiles raining down. Brave maybe, possibly also a little foolish. His punishment, however, certainly did not fit the 'crime'. Absolutely repugnant.

Secondly, from what I saw, Sheva was rather fortunate to remain on the pitch. It looked a pretty clear headbutt, though also Materazzi seemed to bizarrely charge him.

Lastly, Inter had 3 key decisions go against them, and arguably all of them were mistakes: the Sheva incident, the Cambiasso trip in the box which wasn't given as a penalty to Inter when it looked a stonewaller to me, and lastly the debatable chopped off goal.

Thoughts?

Yasser
13th April 2005, 00:18
guys...anyone reminds Materazzi show in the beginning of the game...provocating sheva for yellow card??...PATHETIC!

Excuse my language.. But get ready ===>>>



This Materrazzi motherfvcker son of a *****, son of a whore, the butcher loser asshole clown cheater jackass.. I really hate him from the buttom of my heart, as long as this player plays football, Inter and Italy will NEVER win anything in their life + will get them shame, IMO Saudi defenders are all superiour to this piece of crap, he's sh1t himself..

He's just no sportsman at all and all the bad words said are very well deserved to him, I hope one day one player fvkcs him to retire, then I wouldn't hate Inter as much as I do now..

ac_champs
13th April 2005, 00:21
well said yasser...

Yasser
13th April 2005, 00:21
Inter would have never score 2 goals Vs an average team, you'd think that Inter with 19 players can score 4 against 6 players from Milan? Hell NO!

Mancio IMO proves he's an AMATEUR coach, he needs a 3-0 win and benches his best striker to use 4321.. If Carlo ever does this I'd never ever stop talking about such a mistake!

Btw - I like the way we play, such an experienced team!

ac_champs
13th April 2005, 00:22
btw... chelsea are through 6-5 AGAIN aftr winning 3-2...

kuba1899
13th April 2005, 00:25
First of all there was a foul just before Cambiasso scored. Dida was shoved by Cruz while being in the 3 yard box. The goal was dissmissed properly. Second of all these idiots from inter made me really sick. c'mon. the ban should be tough. when just a few years ago, a polish side WISLA played Parma in the uefa cup, dino baggio was hit by a fan in the head. WISLA was banned fromn the european cups for one year. I think thats the least Inter should get. Not talking bout a heafty fine. NICOLAS --- CHEERS MATE!! SORRY FOR SUCH A SLOP BUT I WAS JUST SITTING BY THE TELLY IN THE OTHER ROOOM SO I DIDNT GET THE CHANCE TO PASS MY WISHES. And now lets just wait for the semis in a relaxed way. PROUD TO BE RED AND WHITE!!!!!! GET WELL NELSON!!

Yasser
13th April 2005, 00:28
Forza MILAN :D

SHEVA :D

I Luff yeW BaBy SHEVAAAAAAAAAAAA :D

Ian
13th April 2005, 00:28
we are through... the match was abandoned but we had a 3-0 lead on aggregate and we will probably go through 5-0 on aggregate because we will probably be awarded the match 3-0.... that would make it a succesion of games against the merda this year: 0-0, 1-0, 2-0, 3-0!!!

I would say we are through, but the commentators on ITV said there will be a decision tomorrow on whether to play the remaining 19 or so minutes.

Ian
13th April 2005, 00:30
PROUD TO BE RED AND WHITE!!!!!!

Have you been on the sauce Kuba? :eek: :p :o

Danny
13th April 2005, 00:31
Ok, I'm feeling a lot of hatred for Materazzi. I'm sorry, but it looked like Sheva butted him. I emphasise 'looked'. Can someone give me the 'truth' if there is such a thing here?

Yasser
13th April 2005, 00:39
Sheva was too close to him but never touched that failure version of Mark Iuliano, such an awful actor too..

He can do a world class butcher though, selling meet and chicken would revive his career ;):p:D

GattusoKing
13th April 2005, 00:46
I'm giving Sheva the benefit of the doubt because of his usual genial character. To me, it looked as though Sheva lowered his head, but it was Materazzi whom walked into it.

Irregardless of that, even if it was an intentional head-butt, Materazzi had it coming. I cant even count the number of times he's butchered Sheva in the last three-years. That scything rib-high challenge (for which only a foul was awarded against him) put Cantona's infamous lunge to shame. Filthy savage (I preferred Yasser's description, actually).

Danny
13th April 2005, 00:53
I admit it was very strange, Materazzi seemed to purposefully charge at Sheva who definitely lowered his head at him. To anyone watching it with no knowledge of Sheva's overall decent integrity it looked like utter violent conduct.

And that's how I am trying to look at it, rather than being a subjective Rossoneri.

Ian
13th April 2005, 01:04
Mancio: We matched Milan Tuesday 12 April, 2005

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Inter were understandably angry and ashamed after a section of their fans forced the abandonment of the Champions’ League derby by attacking Dida.

Milan were already leading 1-0 and there were 16 minutes left to play when Esteban Cambiasso had a goal controversially disallowed and supporters in the ‘curva’ behind Dida’s goal rained objects on the Brazilian.


One lit firework struck him on the shoulder and burned a hole in his jersey, then within seconds of the restart more flares were thrown on to the pitch, forcing referee Markus Merk to abandon the game.


The two Coaches went into the post-match Press conference together in a show of unity against this scandalous behaviour, while the 1-0 scoreline has currently not yet been confirmed.


“We are clearly upset at going out, purely from a sporting perspective as well as what happened off the field,” said Coach Roberto Mancini.


“They were two even games and Dida was extraordinary by saving everything that came his way. I am happy with the performance and I thank the lads for never being inferior to Milan throughout this season. It’s such a shame it all had to end in this fashion and whether or not the goal should’ve been disallowed is irrelevant.”


Mancio’s tactical choices will come under attack, as he started with a half-fit Adriano – who was carried off with a muscular problem – as lone striker with Andy van der Meyde and Kily Gonzalez on the wings.


“I had planned the game like we played in the first half with plenty of crosses from the wings, but Milan scored with their first shot and it all became much more difficult for us. We should’ve closed Shevchenko down earlier, but he is a great striker and scored a wonderful goal,” added the tactician.


“Moments can change the course of a game and we had intended to score first, but Dida and Shevchenko proved to be the difference. I didn’t want to give the central defenders any static positions to mark, so with two wide players and Adriano moving around a lot, I hoped to make it difficult for Milan.”


When asked to send a message out to the supporters who had ruined the match by hurling objects at the pitch, Mancini was lost for words.


“I don’t see what more we can do other than say we’re very disappointed and upset at what happened.”


Captain Javier Zanetti was also reticent to condemn the fans and opted to discuss the performance instead.


“I would prefer to talk about the game. Everyone saw what happened and we are all upset at leaving this competition, as it meant so much to us and the club. We were honestly quite confident going into the match, but Dida was wonderful and kept his team in it.”


Doubts now hang over the future of Mancini’s tenure at the San Siro after going out of Europe and never really getting into the Scudetto race.


“We must honour these team colours until the end of the season and try to win the Coppa Italia, then we’ll see what the future holds, but I doubt the problem lies with the Coach,” concluded Zanetti.


Inter security chief Stefano Filucchi explained just how hopeless the current Italian legal system is at dealing with hooliganism.


“Everyone knows the lads in the Curva and we don’t have the legislation that in England allow clubs to ban certain supporters from the ground. If they queue up for tickets then we legally cannot turn them away at the gate.”


Channel 4

So those imbeciles can turn up on sunday and watch the merdazzuri again? WTF?

Leffe
13th April 2005, 01:08
What a disgrace and they call themselfs supporters, beasts they are, pure hooligans !!

Now a question ? Doesn't anybody think Sheva will be suspended ? I'm affraid he will :(

Ian
13th April 2005, 01:08
Ancelotti shocked by fan violence Tuesday 12 April, 2005

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Carlo Ancelotti admits he had no idea the Inter fans would resort to violence, as the Milan rivalry has always been a friendly one.

“It was an unexpected reaction from the fans, as I’ve played in a dozen derbies and never seen anything like this. It is a terrible blow to the city of Milan, which has always shown great sportsmanship.”


The Coach and former player suggested that the Italian media has exasperated fans into this sort of behaviour.


“We should certainly put more power in the hands of the security forces, but above all it is a question of culture – we don’t talk about sport in television these days, it’s just refereeing errors and stirring up tension. Nonetheless, there were no warning signs, as the fans in Milan make fun of each other, but it never goes beyond that.”


Dida could not continue the game after a lit firework struck him on the shoulder, burning a hole through his shirt.


“It is nothing too serious, but the fresh burn made it difficult to move his shoulder so we preferred not to risk it by letting him continue,” explained Ancelotti, whose side was winning 1-0 thanks to Andriy Shevchenko when the tie was abandoned.


“It was a good defensive performance against an impressive Inter side, but we were also dangerous upfront and a fantastic Shevchenko goal put the tie in our pockets. We were too relaxed after the restart and should’ve played with a higher tempo.”


Milan have not conceded a single goal in the knockout round of the Champions’ League this season, scoring five goals in four games.


“This round and the previous one against Manchester United was built on a solid defence and we kept four consecutive clean sheets. When we were beaten, Dida came to the rescue, so I think that to win this competition we have to work on the other areas of our team.”


Match-winner Shevchenko was also upset with the fact he cannot look back and remember this match fondly.


“I am very sorry and there’s nothing more we can say. It’s a real shame for Inter, as I don’t know what sanctions they will face and it ruined a very good game,” said the Ukrainian.


“I’m sure the majority of the crowd did not want it to end this way, but a few individuals are hard to reach and determined to cause trouble. All the players can do is act in a sporting manner on the pitch.”


The Rossoneri were under pressure early on and Shevchenko’s goal was practically their first scoring opportunity.


“It was an important moment of the match, as we were under pressure and knew Inter would come out of the blocks quickly, but that goal allowed us to control the match. Our approach in the second half was far too relaxed, but we are through now and have to prepare for the next round.”


Dida was again decisive with a series of fantastic saves on Kily Gonzalez, Juan Sebastian Veron and Obafemi Martins.


“Dida is a great goalkeeper and he proved once again today that he gives the whole team a sense of security knowing he’s back there.”


Clarence Seedorf suggested that this dreadful show at the San Siro was a good starting point to finally act on the growing problem of violence in Italian stadiums.


“I hope the memory of this game isn’t cancelled out, as we need to start immediately and teach people how to watch football,” said the Dutchman. “Dida is doing alright and is a little sore where he was struck, but he will be fine.”


Some have claimed that the constant media examination of conspiracy theories and refereeing favouritism has turned football into a war-zone.


“I was talking with Esteban Cambiasso and told him that I understand the moments of stress, especially when you’re losing, but players have to lead by example and not go outside the realm of respectability when something doesn’t go your way.”


Milan were set to qualify for the semi-finals anyway, as Andriy Shevchenko’s goal had given them an unassailable 3-0 aggregate lead with 16 minutes left to play.


“We were never really afraid of going out, but we did misplace too many passes early on and Inter were pushing forward aggressively,” added Seedorf. “Sheva’s great goal and our solid defending show we deserved to reach the semi-final.”


The Rossoneri are now among the favourites for the final victory and will face either PSV Eindhoven or Lyon in the semi’s.


“Of course reaching the final four gives you strength and the obstacles have not been small ones. Milan can really take centre-stage in this competition.”


Channel 4

Yasser
13th April 2005, 01:08
Mancio: Inter MATCHED Milan?

That statement is beyond me, but what do you expect from a coach who used 1 unfit striker when he needed 3 goals, you would surely expect a comec comment.. They never matched us or never ever been a threat to us, IMO the worst team we faced this season. 4 games and no single goal scored by them and he says they compete with us?

LOSERS MENTALITY!

Leffe
13th April 2005, 01:13
Yasser he's an idiot Mancio ;) Nothing more nothing less :D

Let's hope they don't suspend Sheva :rolleyes:

Danny
13th April 2005, 01:31
Mancio: Inter MATCHED Milan?

That statement is beyond me, but what do you expect from a coach who used 1 unfit striker when he needed 3 goals, you would surely expect a comec comment.. They never matched us or never ever been a threat to us, IMO the worst team we faced this season. 4 games and no single goal scored by them and he says they compete with us?

LOSERS MENTALITY!

Actually, over the 2 legs they more or less dominated possession and created the most chances. Just weren't clinical enough. And up against Dida they also had little chance :)

Can you tell me all the chances we had tonight?

Leffe
13th April 2005, 01:46
Shocking revelations by Inter fans who admitted that the flare shower was programmed from before.
During a Champions League program on Italian television, following Tuesday night matches, some anonymous Inter fans who were in Curva Nord during the infamous encounter sent messages explaining what happened.

One fan declared that he overheard one of the Ultras leaders saying: "Let’s chant till the 30th minute (second half) then we know what we have to do."

Another fan said that he knew from beforehand that this would happen as there were talks between the Ultras that they wanted to send a “warning sign” to Moratti and all Inter board to show their disapproval at another disappointing season.

These comments would explain why there were so many flares (unusually high number) which were thrown at the same time. At first it was thought that the disallowed Cambiasso goal had sparked all the incidents, but apparently it only started the contestation 4 minutes earlier than expected (75th minute).


I wouldn't be surprissed WHAT A DISGRACE if they planned this :o :o

Danny
13th April 2005, 01:47
This very notion was postulated by the pundits on TV here in UK.
They said 'it was almost like the Inter fans wanted it all to go wrong so they could start up in this way, almost seemed planned'.

Call Me 7 Cups
13th April 2005, 01:48
the game is *over*

last 19 minutes wont be played, because that's only applied to Spain and Italy national leagues, not in Uefa Competitions

so possible scenaries are :

1 : 0-1 Milan
2 : 0-3 Milan (punishment)
3 : 0-4 Milan (1 goal scored + 0-3 punishment)

and ban to Inter


CONGRATS GUYS

ac_champs
13th April 2005, 02:05
i want the thrid one... inter should be used to set an example for the future.. they should be banned from european competitions for 1-3 season...

ac_champs
13th April 2005, 02:09
if the flare attack was really planned ahead of the match then imo the punishment should be harsher on the fans... i think that these kind of people shouldn't be allowed to be in football stadiums cuz they only damage the game and the reputation of high profile games and clubs... imo inter should also get several no crowd games if and when they play again in europe... and seedorf is right the government has to do something... for example, here in israel flares and big bottles are not allowed to go into the stadium... the security guards just take them away... obviously you can't get them all but most of them are caught and the number of flares are a lot smaller...

Danny
13th April 2005, 02:23
Ok guys, I don't care what any of you say, Sheva seems to be guilty as sin - just saw it again and prior to what looks an absolutely blatant headbutt he also clearly barges Materazzi in an off the ball incident.

I don't give 2 hoots about the previous between the 2, based on the video evidence I can't defend him at all. If he gets suspended I can't object.

KONDR
13th April 2005, 02:41
I wont talk about those foking loosers, their fans, their whole team who didnt even try to stop the curva, about foking idiot Mancini. IMO its all obvious.

I wanted to notice one important thing about our game. In this match we really gave inter lots of chances. I know we were leading 3-0 overall but still, if not for MAGNIFICENT Dida, we would have conceded 2 goals from long shots at least. The important thing is that most of these chances came from long shots. And who was supposed to stop these shots from happening? See what I mean. IMO Ambro played awfully (I am not talking about yellow card in 2 minute). IMO he is no sub for Rino and with him from the start we loose the midfield completely. Just compare our first and second games against Inter. Ambro doesnt move enough and cant stop their midfielders near our penalty area. In future this could reall be very dangerous for us. What do u guys think?

Call Me 7 Cups
13th April 2005, 03:38
i dont think sheva will be suspended, cos usually TV facts are seen ONLY if the Referee NOR Linesman HAVEN'T seen, and based on images, the Linesman has seen(nothing) and told the Ref about it.

about Milan that conceded many shots to Inter, i think we played the rule of who had the knife in the hand side, so Inter had to play attack attack play score
and in 160 over 180 minutes they didnt score 1 single goal.

if we were in opposite conditions probably we'd have attacked from beginning to end , and Inter would try to defend their advantage.

(after all we conceded 0 goals in 4 matches vs Man Utd Man Utd Inter Inter) probably if we concede a goal, we start playing the ball and the other has no chance

GattusoKing
13th April 2005, 03:45
I expected nothing more and nothing less from Max. The booking in the first few minutes (a typically rash lunge) effectively tied his hands resorting in him having to play a more stand-off ish game. He had his moments and made a couple of decent steals, but his inability to cover the ground and ascertain when to close players down did indeed leave huge gulfs in the midfield, rendering Dida's goal a veritable coconut shy. One day sentimentality is going to bite us on the proverbial.

Danny, if you'd seen the previous mentioned, you'd forgive Sheva had he run over Materazzi with a steam roller. Again, I'm giving Sheva the benefit of the doubt, but even if it was intentional, it couldnt have happened to a nicer man, as they say. Karma ;)

Re: Italian fans, after every incident (and there's a fair few every year), there's cries for the government to intervene, for stadia to be modernised, for stricter policing. All wonderful solutions in theory, except that's all they're ever intended to be - mere, perfunctory theory.

Call Me 7 Cups
13th April 2005, 03:48
about Police

here when Police uses "hard hand" there are tears from every side, pacifists, comunists, priests, football reporters, managers

and it ends like the Police is the one that shouldnt exists at all cos they kicked some bad a$$es

Whatever Police does, they do wrong

bendalazzi
13th April 2005, 04:30
Sheva wont be suspended hey. Everyone knows materazzi's past history and it preceeds him. They'll just go 'meh its only materazzi' and that will be that. I do believe that cambiasso's goal should have been allowed and theres not a lot of evidence to say otherwise. But in regards to the flares and missiles incident, well, what else do we expect from inter dogs!

recap: if materazzi wasnt a dog, sheva would be suspended. Inter fans are dogs and the goal should have been allowed (not that it would have made a difference anyway). If UEFA decide to comeback and say play the remaining 20 mins, that would be just stupid. no point whatsoever. au reviour inter (ya sore losers)

bendalazzi
13th April 2005, 04:35
btw, does anyone know if there were any more incidents on the streets? or was it just in the san siro?

We're also gonna have a stuggle considering we've now lost nesta for the semi final first leg, but i think we'll cope nevertheless. I also believe we'll have Gattuso back as well which is always a positive! :D

angelino
13th April 2005, 07:14
What more can be said... Interisti really showed their true colours last night!

Regardless of whether the goal stood, they were still gonna be f*cked, and the display from their fans was nothing short of pathetic. 3 derby wins and 1 draw this season, its been a good year :D

Yasser
13th April 2005, 09:32
Actually, over the 2 legs they more or less dominated possession and created the most chances. Just weren't clinical enough. And up against Dida they also had little chance :)

Can you tell me all the chances we had tonight?

That makes trhe difference from big teams and small teams. The score what matters not the chances missed, they scored 0 in 4 games, means they are SH!T.

swissmilan
13th April 2005, 10:02
It's a shame what happened at San Siro yesterday! :(

ac_champs
13th April 2005, 12:26
Inter pair ‘understand’ fan reaction Wednesday 13 April, 2005

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Juan Sebastian Veron and Ivan Cordoba have amazingly ‘defended’ the Inter fans after they forced the abandonment of the Milan derby.

The referee called the game off on 73 minutes after fans hurled missiles onto the pitch, including numerous flares which hit and burned Rossoneri goalkeeper Dida.

But the Inter duo have suggested that Markus Merk’s decision to disallow an Esteban Cambiasso goal was the reason behind the actions of the supporters.

"It isn’t right what the fans did but you can understand it," stated Veron. "I don’t know what the referee saw because I thought it was a goal."

Cordoba, who ironically applauded Merk after he abandoned the game, added: "The reaction of the fans was more than comprehensible after Merk didn’t give us the goal.

"I can’t say anything to the fans because we couldn’t deliver what they were expecting from us.

"My hand clap? It was an instinctive reaction and not an insult. I’m just still asking myself why Cambiasso’s goal was ruled out."

Stopper Marco Materazzi also looked to defend the fans. "I know the heads of the Ultra groups and they are intelligent people, they didn’t want this to happen.

"I’m saddened by what has occurred and these things shouldn’t go on but I can understand why they do."

channel4.com

now that's just horrible... i would love to see their reaction if adriano had been hit... stupid merda...

Danny
13th April 2005, 13:27
Veron and Cordoba are absolute fools. They're the type who think Shankley was right.

ac_champs
13th April 2005, 14:29
the vast majority seem in favor of banning inter from european competitions...
read it... there is a funny and obsurd one at the end which i highlighted!!!

Your Views: Should Inter Be Punished Heavily?
4/13/2005 12:43:00 PM
Following the terrible and indecent incidents which occured during Inter-Milan, what actions should UEFA take against the Nerazzurri? Just a fine and ground ban for the next European matches? Or should they be banned from European competitions? Should a sanction also hit other Italian teams? Will these incidents happen again during the high-risk Juventus-Liverpool match? Let us know at you@goal.com!
Inter should be Punished. Exclusion from Europe for one year seems fine to me. Too many people joined with bottle throwing, even umbrellas ..even the referee was hit with a flare, if u see the roma-kiev match..ref was only hit with a coin and they got a big punishment.. this is way too bigger situation. I wouldn’t be surprised if they were excluded for more than 1 year. Certainly Inter fans should be ashamed. There should be no excuse for this behaviour but fans were kind of provoked by Inter lack of success and to the certain degree of extent the ref, who refused to see Shevchenko’s headbutt and Cambiasso’s perfectly legitimate goal. There were too many nutcases that night in San Siro normally u see very few but that’s the work of many.

Asad Khan

Gosh we all know that Inter fans have been punished long enough for years, but the disgrace in front of a large international audience should not go unpunished. In fact it would be worthy of a severe punishment regardless of the size and scope of the audience. I’d say a two or three match ban for their subsequent European games. First it was the Roma fans causing a disgrace earlier in the competition, and now Inter fans later in the competition. Why is it we don’t see this in other countries? Italy should definitely change its legislation to start allowing teams to bar potential troublemakers from the games. And why do you see the flares at games all the time when they are supposed to be banned from stadiums? How can fans be ‘hiding’ these large objects and getting them through security?

Donato Totaro

This is not the only incident involving Inter fans. I say hit them EXTREMELY hard. Five year European ban. Ten game closed-stadium penalty in Serie A games. 15,000,000,000 lire fine (USD 10m). Italian football is out of control.

Steve Thornton

First, regardless of if the goal was correctly disallowed or not, I think Inter fans must be severely punished for killing football with ground ban. Second, if this event was really planned by the fans, than I wonder how no such news arrived to the club, and also wonder where were the security guards, to add how such material would be allowed to the ground in such a big number. I therefore am with a harsh sanction on the club. What about other clubs? Why approach them at all? I doubt such thing would ever come from Milan or Juventus fans and I doubt the Juventus-Liverpool match is at risk. Inter fans are just very upset from consecutive very disappointing seasons. It’s not the case for Milan or Juventus.

Hassan Annous

What Nerazzurri Fans did last night was a big shame for Italian football, fans and supporters, and for the city of Milan. Sport is always a beautiful mixture between good ethics and skills, so if the Nerazzurri fans have a problem with their team results, they should talk to their administrations face to face in a peaceful way to find the best solution for all parties included and not by the silly ways, they had last night. The accrued damage of last night was too big for Italian football in general and for all Italian fans and is not limited to Inter Milan only, but also to whole Italian clubs since we had the same story with Roma fans earlier this season. From my own point of view, Inter should be banned from all European Competitions for the next year and should stop their supporters to attend their team matches for the upcoming games in the Serie A to give a clear message to UEFA that all Italian fans are really concerned on correcting the damage accrued. UEFA should not ban all Italian teams to play in the next European Competitions since they have nothing to do in such a situation in one side and it is not fair to put the others mistakes on all Italian’s shoulders. However, if the same events happened again and again in Italian fields, we should excuse UEFA in everything they take against all Italian teams since it is serious problem needed to be solved by all partners in Italy.

M. Al-yousef –Jordan

INTER SHOULD JUST DISBAND ITS TEAM. I have been an inter fan for the past 15 years. It saddens me to see them play like crap year after year. In the beginning of the season, we always say this is going to be Inter’s year. But as we have seen year after year, it just isn’t!! I just cannot understand how a team with as many stars as we have, not win a SINGLE scudetto title for 15 years!!! I foresee ANOTHER squad overhaul this coming summer by Moratti. And I also cannot understand what is Moratti’s fascination with Alvaro Recoba in the Inter squad. He is the worst player EVER to don the Inter jersey, keeping in mind how many players are ex-Inter players!!! Inter is paying Recoba something like 4 to 5 million pounds a year for him to stay home and do nothing but ****. Recoba does not perform in big matches like the derby and against teams like Juventus, Roma and Lazio. He scores the odd goal against lowly-placed teams and makes a big hoo-ha over nothing. Adding to that, he is injured for about 60% of the season with one reason or another. Thinking about all this just makes me believe that Moratti is in love with Recoba, but not as a player (if you guys know what i mean).Moratti should sell off all the players and the club and redeem as much of his money as he can and run away to Montevideo, Uruguay and live life together with his love mate, Alvaro Recoba.

Inter fan

I feel that Inter should be made to pay a steep fine, as well as play their next 2 Uefa matches behind closed doors or at a neutral stadium. That should send a message to the Inter fans that such behaviour is unacceptable in today’s football.

Wale, Nigeria

I am so disappointed with the behavour of the inter fans, the inter management have to be blamed too for allowing their fans to behave this way.The Football World is disappointed and such things should be properly treated by Uefa, Inter should be Fine heavily and three home games in uefa competition should also be played away from San Siro. We need to have respect for our players life and the the lives of the opponent teams players too. because without this the players will be afraid to play under this harsh condition.

Lamin J Ceesay-The Gambia, West Africa

I was watching the game last night in the pub and it was absolutely disgraceful to interrupt such a good game of football. In my opinion heavy legal actions should be taken against Inter and new legislative system should be provided in order to punish those who are guilty if something similar happens in future. You don’t see this happening in Britain or any other country. When something serious happens like this actions should be taken in order to prevent this happening in future. It is not fair to the fans who paid for the game and were just enjoying it whatever was the final outcome. And I’m disgusted with comments of Veron and Cordoba. There should be no excuses for what Inter fans did. And the goal was disallowed fairly so Cordoba’s comments don’t make sense.

Senya, Scotland/Russia

I am an indian and an avid fan of italian football with a fan feeling for the rossoneri since nearly a decade. i watched the second leg of the quarter final last night and was pretty much disappointed withthe way the inter fans conducted themselves. the sad part is that a legendary derby of 2 excellent football eams and my favourite was spoiled with this wanton display of dangerous fireworks. they would’ve beenbetter displayed if and when inter made it to the semis. winning and losing are less important it is sad that some of the nerrazurri fans mentioned that it was pre-planned. this is definitely cantankerousand a slur on the name of inter for whom also iharbour much admiration. the uefa here should see thatsometimes emotions rise such that security and club officials are reduced to mere spectators,spectators helpless at the sight of barbarians and their misdeeds.a monetary fine should suffice and a ban of a couple of matches,nothing else.they need not be banned as that would be too harsh a punishment on a football association of much reputeand calibre.the old lady of turin also has a match set up tonightwith liverpool.there is speculation rife about suchbarbarities happening at the delle alpi.this must beforbidden at any cost as the backdrop of this match ismore serious with the Heysel tragedy and the biaconeritrailing by a goal.pool fans might well be cheering atthe expense of their lives.i appeal to the italianauthorities to be so efficient that everything goessmoothly,good sense prevails and may the best teamwin.let the englishmen go home with a postive opinion about italian football.

Football fan-India

First of all I don’t think that the throwing or use of flares in football stadiums are conducive to football. They seem to me as an inherent for hooliganism. So i think a ban of flares in Italian Stadiums would be a great start. But the scenes in the San Siro were a disgrace and if it’s just for the message they send to kids and neutral viewers, Inter must be punished severely for what they did. This is what would happen in an ideal world but as for me their are contradictions. I heard people talk about Inter getting thrown out of the champions league because of what happened or maybe having to play their next few matches in empty stadiums. The contradiction that I feel arises is how U.E.F.A dealt with racism in Spanish stadiums and the the whole ’racist craze’ in the Spanish league. I believe Atletico Madrid were fined just 420 euros for their racist chants and verbal attacks on black players. Now I think most people would agree that Racism in stadiums is just as bad if not worse than the scenes at the san siro and therefore should be treated with just as much importance. So if Uefa were to go ahead and punish Inter more severely than they did Spain and their club teams(they already did that with Mourinho and Chelsea) then what message would they be sending out? They need to get their priorities straight.

Kehinde Omotayo, London

They should of course be punished...and heavily. Think if Dida would have got that flare in his face?? He was just lucky. Inter should play behind closed door for 5-10 games, not just 1-2. And Inter must try to do something to get rid of fans that are throwing flares and other stuff... How, I´m not sure. Maybe by closing down stands, and only allow seats. And if this happens again in Italy, e.g. in the Juventus-Liverpool game, Italian teams should be banned from European competitions for a few years. Just like the English teams.

PETE

Hello there,My name Anargyros Sidiropoulos and I am an Inter fanfrom Greece. What happened yesterday is one of themost embarrassing moments of my team’s history so far,and an embarrassing moment for the football in general.Should Inter be punished heavily? In my opinion yes. My team should be disqualified from all Internationalcompetitions for at least two seasons, but still on the other hand I see no reason why should UEFA show no tolerance just as they did with Roma Vs Dynamo Kiev in the group stages this season. Taking this into account, in my opinion the UEFA precedent points out that Inter should just be banned to play without any fans for 3-5 home European matches next season. The main reason for contacting you is because I want to bring to your attention several incidents that took place during the game against my team, and which in my opinion heavily affected the result and the outcome of the match. The referee Mr Markus Merk showed unjustifiable tolerance to the Milan team at the expense of Inter. There were at least 3 incidents during the first half that sealed the fate of the game. In the beginning of the game the Milan star A.Shevchenko attacked M. Materazzi right in front of thereferee assistant. The result? Mr Merk not only did not disqualify Shevchenko, or at least show him the yellow card, but did not even give him a warning. Next we all showed the violent tackle of Ambrossini against an Inter midfielder at around the 35th minute of thegame(I cannot recall the name of the Inter player), when Ambrossini had already a yellow card. Again MrMerk was very tolerant for Milan, no second yellow card, no warning, no nothing. Then we had twoincidents that could be given as a penalty. The first was when Cafu felt on Andriano when he attempted a header. Perhaps that was not a penalty, and if I was the referee on the balance of probabilities I would not give anything. Still, the tackle made on Cambiasso at around the 40th minute was definitely a penalty kick...even a blind man could see that. At the conclusion, we must not overlook all the hard challenges made on Andrianno throughout the game...The disqualified goal...well that goal would make no difference even if not disqualified. My question is...Should Mr Markus Merk be punished heavily as well? In my opinion yes. Such referees are a disgrace for football.

Mr. A. Sidiropoulos

Greetings to the best football site, What Nerazzuri fans did during the 2nd leg game vs AC Milan is definitely destroying a whole picture about a giant club like Inter is. I am personally crazy about inter so my opinion might not be objective one, but it’s still mine and i am using a right to speak out loud. Let’s comment a bit ref’s decision to cancel the goal cambiaso scored. That was the trigger. I watched it over and over and there was absolutely no foul made. Inter fans as irritated as they are from their team not winning on any important competitions reacted brutally and kept throwing objects on the pitch. There has to be some punishment, something like not playing at home for next 3-4 euro games and some fee, but banning them completely would be complete madness. I think that after all uefa should take some responsibility for appointing such a referee who made a high contribution for the incidents. As far as Juve game...let’s see first whats gonna happen and then draw conclusions. If Juve starts winning and proceeding to the semis i think it’s all going to be cool at delle alpi...the ugly scenes can happen if liverpool shows up to play. Personally I dislike Juve but to be honest they are better side then liverpool and I don’t expect that reds will be able to hold ’em.

Vladimir Simovic

Hi, in my view, the Italian Football Association (IFA) should be punished severly as well. How did they ensure the security of the spectators entering the stadium when it can allow flares, missiles and pyrotechnics to be brought in? Are they promoting individuals to be guarding against terrorist attack swith their own weapons? The troublemakers should be caught on video and be brought to justice in the court of law. The club being punished or not does not impact the rogues and ruffians. They should be made to feel the consequences of their own actions. The police, if they don’t want to be accused of incompetence, should seek out these ardent football fans and let them feel the fury of the enforcement unit. The club, last but not least, shall of course bear part of the responsibility. The players’ conduct on the field did not help to alleviate the emotions in the crowd with their show of fiery temper. What a disappointment that such talents have such lousy character. The punishment should match the crime. For the IFA, a ban on the country from international matches for a year should prove painful. This would translate to them missing the World Cup 2006 to be held in Germany although they have played the qualifiers. I think FIFA would support UEFA if such a punishment is mete out. For the football fans, they should be punished according to the Italian law for criminal assault for throwing items onto the field. As for the football club Inter, UEFA could impose a certain number of mandatory public service hours on the players to go out and serve the elderly to learn some humility and patience. Or again, if UEFA is seeking the easy way out, just fine all parties involved (IFA, those rowdy football fans and Inter). But the amount should not be less than the national GDP of Italy. That would teach the whole country a good lesson.

Victor Gant

Dear goal.com, If I were UEFA decision maker, I would suggest the followings: 1- they should be banned from European competitions for 3 years. 2- they have to pay a 2 million dollars fine.

masoud hasani

Yes! Inter must be punished very heavily. Perhaps they should be out from UEFA competition next season and pay very huge fees. I can not understand how the stadium officials allow some fans to enter the stadium with so many dangerous flares. Why don’t they check each supporter, especially those behind the posts, thoroughly before they let him enter the stadium?

Christos-Sweden

Fans with no concern for others life should never be given an opportunity. But with that in mind it is also the duty of the home team to ensure all safety precautions are adhered. In this case the best punishment will be to make them play 1 year of closed door matches to hit them financially. Due to no ticket revenue they will be forced to sell their expensive players. And that will lead to poor results and ultimately move down to alower league or even to a bottom place in the current league.Let the club build a foundation from scratch with ;lesser supporters and below par performance. And hopefully they start climbing in performance and finance in the near future and will take all precaution to avoid the repeat in future. This will also make all other teams to be vigilant and be more interactive with their fans to avoid a situation like the one yesterday. It is about time we taught the uncultured, thoughtless and complacent fans and clubs the beauty of the game.

Daven Manian

Yes Inter must be punished serverely for the behaviour shown during the 2ndleg encounter. Precedent has been set by the incident at the Stadio Olimpico earlier in the season. A black day for football. How disrespectful of the Inter fans to destroy their clubs image.

Anthony Patti

What an absolute disgrace ! No wonder Italian football is getting a bad reputation. First we have the Juventus anti-doping scandal ; then we have managers/ players griping about refereeing decisions week in and week out ; then we have fans displaying anti-semitic / fascist banners and chanting fascist slogans ; then we have street fights between rival supporters. Now we have this ridiculous scene at San Siro with the storm of flares from the Inter ultras. Should Inter be punished ? No. How could you punish the team because of a few brainless bastards who ruin it for everyone ? The FIGC and the government needs to step in now and instead of talking about taking action , do something about the situation. Give these troublemakers jail sentences and a criminal record as well as heavy fines as well. Ban them from the stadiums for life. Football doesn’t need this kind of scourge. As a last resort, close all stadiums until further notice until these so-called fans learn to become a bit more civilized.

Carlo Renzi

I think Inter deserves a severe ban from European matches for 1 year in order to show the other european teams what is the consequences of misbehaved supporters. The same type of misbehaviour is happening again in the same year of Champions League from the teams of the same country, this apparently showed that a 2 home-match bad for Roma is not effective enough to warn both the supporters and the teams, therefore I would suggest a severe ban for inter in order to warn all european teams, as well as their supporters.

Stephanie Yim

hi, well i think the refree should be punished not the supporters. and i think that football is afear game and in a football game i dont like cheating. and the refree was unfair because when combiasso scored and it was a goal but the refree didnt accept it. well that was what i think that about inter that the referee should be punished.

Kos Aget

As a Greek we have been punished heavily all times that something likethis happens to our clubs,let inter pay the price know.Mancini is the worst coach I have seen...He diserves to get sacked

ARGYRIADES, BILL

Yes of course! Inter and their fans should be punished. They may be banned for next years competition. Such stupid behaviour from the tifosi is unacceptable although I really understand their disappointment. They haven´t won anything since 1989 except one UEFA-cup trophy in 1998. They are told every season by the president that this is the year and every time they fail... But it never give you the right to make such unacceptable scenes! I really hope Inter will be banned for next years competition to state an example...

Sřren, Denmark

As a dedicated Inter fan for almost 16 years now I must say that the actions taken on there home ground was not needed but they were understandable. The Inter fans showed how impatient they have become with Moratti and co. Inter will be slapped with a heavy fine as UEFA wants to make sure episodes like this do not happen again but mark my words that the Inter fans will not be silenced. It’s been way to long since we have seen a Cup raised and we no longer can speak of our team proudly. How can you continue to have hope in a team that keeps making the same mistakes every year. Inter fans have had enough punishment and are finished with being embarrassed. Mr.Moratti should take this as a sign and a warning to everyone on the Inter staff – BEWARE – You have Driven Inter Fans INSANE!

Nicola Imeneo

Why bother. The only way to defeat hooligans is for the civilized fan to stand up. Soccer is just a game; does it pay one’s bills? No but the fans pay the players wage. However, however pissed one is no one has the right to destroy property or endanger others. If you cannot handle defeat, what about writing a letter, or better yet boycotting the team and not going to the games (or join the winning side, just a suggestion). That will give a signal to Inter (or any) management. Have they not read Ghandi? He brought down a colonial empire. Also, the union is the force. The ultras are bullies. If the civilized fans stand up as a pack and specifically state that violence is unacceptable, or they will squeal them to the Police, then things could change. Hey, the pendidti did a lot of damage to the Sicilian mob. There will be heartache, but if the civilized fans are there for the long haul, there can be change. What better for the Inter fan to practice this? They have waited 16 years for a Scudetto, can’t they take 16 years to show the soccer world how to handle **** heads?

Bruno Cardile

I am an inter fan and I switched the match off at around the 60 minute mark because I couldn’t take it any more, then I woke up to find out about this disgraceful situation. I believe inter should receive a fine and have to play three of their next UEFA games behind closed doors.I’m very disappointed by what has happened but I hope it will make a firm impact on Moratti, indicating to him that we as inter fans demand results, even though this sort of behaviour is unacceptable, but Inter fans are traditionally well-behaved so hopefully UEFA will have a lenient ’first offence’ type approach to them.

-Nino Rossi

I strongly believe Inter is a victim of an agreement between the Italian mafia and the German mafia to get Milan into the next level, last month in Germany a scandal has taken place in the local Liga and we all saw how the refs were involved on it, I strongly suggest the UEFA to investigate if there is any relations, more over last night was a disaster on the Germany 2006 World Cup… finally, Inter must not to be touch. >>>>>

Mohamed Ali Almasabi / Baniyas UAE>>>>> inter fan

It is not surprising that Inter fans are furious for the lack of silverware Inter has won this year. Also, the disallowed goal that Inter scored was a a fair goal and a bad call by the referee. Inter should be punished heavily for their misbehavior. Not only did they cause the game to be postponed, they also put the players at risk. I guarantee you that if Chelsea fans were to do something similar the club would be banned from European competitions. The game should not be played anymore and the win should just be given automatically to AC Milan. I don’t believe similar incidents will occur in Juventus-Liverpool match because the security will be alert. The incident in San Siro was a sad moment for Italian Football and for Football in general.

David A. New Jersey, U.S.A.

from goal.com

the vast majority seem in favor of banning inter from european competitions...

Call Me 7 Cups
13th April 2005, 14:54
SHEVCHENKO SAFE

No Shevchenko proceedings
Meanwhile, UEFA has said it will not instigate proceedings against Shevchenko for an incident involving the Ukrainian player and Inter opponent Marco Materazzi which occurred in the third minute of the game.
No indication
A UEFA spokesman said that after the viewing of the match video, it appeared that the incident occurred in front of the assistant referee, who did not indicate anything to referee Merk.


UEFA.COM

GattusoKing
13th April 2005, 16:39
about Police

here when Police uses "hard hand" there are tears from every side, pacifists, comunists, priests, football reporters, managers

and it ends like the Police is the one that shouldnt exists at all cos they kicked some bad a$$es

Whatever Police does, they do wrong

I loathe to see violence at football stadiums, or anywhere for that matter, but intervention by baton-wielding police is the only action these savages respect, IMO. An ornamental police force achieves absolutely nothing and essentially gives said savages carte blanche to do whatever they please until they tire themselves out. It's sending all the wrong signals and gives the impression that Italian stadia are lawless arenas, to visit at your peril.

What vexes mostly are the double-standards employed by said police force. If they're passive when it comes to fans of their own nationality, they're in stark contrast when it comes to foreign fans. I guarantee you, if those were German, English or Dutch fans responsible for last night's disgraceful episode, the Italian police would have needed no invitation to go cracking skulls as though it were Christmas. Compatriots, foreigners, Ultras, whoever - the same rules MUST apply to all spectators and there MUST be consequences.

artan
13th April 2005, 20:45
we can do nothing that everything black-blue is stupid!!!!!!!!!
there are speculations that merda fans have planed it before the game , maybe they were sure that their merda side will loose again , so they stood up against their own managment , but why hit Dida !!!?! Hit Toldo then ,or Moratti !

Elchillum
13th April 2005, 21:29
I am 100% sure they planned this thing (no speculations) ... if you just read the banners (tanto noi della partita non ci frega un c....) ... that's the proof!
Inter players, fans, coach, ... they go hand in hand ... congratulations to them and a special applause for cordobba for being such a wanker!

cheers :beer:

Mushfiq
13th April 2005, 22:55
F^uck!ing Barbarians...was that battle field or something...damn u Interisti...it fell down rite at Dida;s shoulder...imaging the bottle of watre fell in his head from that stands.....gotta kick some ar$es & show them whos their Daddy....enjoy the punishment ala Roma! :@:@:@

Ian
14th April 2005, 00:35
SHEVCHENKO SAFE

No Shevchenko proceedings
Meanwhile, UEFA has said it will not instigate proceedings against Shevchenko for an incident involving the Ukrainian player and Inter opponent Marco Materazzi which occurred in the third minute of the game.
No indication
A UEFA spokesman said that after the viewing of the match video, it appeared that the incident occurred in front of the assistant referee, who did not indicate anything to referee Merk.


UEFA.COM


Praise the lord for this beautiful news ;)

VUGAR
14th April 2005, 11:34
that is damn really a good news! :thumb:

yourmood
14th April 2005, 18:11
Indeed it’s a great news :D

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