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Rosso
5th September 2007, 14:33
The Lega Calcio has announced that Siena-Milan of the third matchday will be played on Saturday 15th of September at 6pm.
I expect 1.60 for victory from gamebookers.com and return of Ronaldo :)
P.S. Today is Leonardo's birthday. Buon compleanno :)
Gurre
5th September 2007, 14:41
It's highly uncertain if Ronaldo will be fit even against Siena in ten days.
fillipo
5th September 2007, 14:56
offcourse we all hope that he'll be fit, but for siena we certainly shouldn't be depended on ronaldo!
100% victory if we want to be champions this year!!
artan
5th September 2007, 15:37
ronaldo will be out of action, until Benfica game.
brana77
5th September 2007, 19:23
Ancelotti says Ronaldo will play against Siena.
i dont believe him.
Yasser
5th September 2007, 23:50
Why not?
I do believe him :)
fillipo
6th September 2007, 15:25
also meersseman declared today that ronaldo will be able to play against siena!
artan
6th September 2007, 15:31
great news then
brana77
9th September 2007, 21:47
Why not?
I do believe him :)
because good man dont stay on his word
:d :d
artan
10th September 2007, 16:17
latest news: Ronaldo out for a month. He is in Brazil
fillipo
10th September 2007, 17:37
yep milan therapist is with him, but indeed probarbly 4 weeks before he can return on the field
castagnola21
10th September 2007, 17:40
I hope Gila starts against Siena! A brace will do him good.
brana77
10th September 2007, 20:43
I hope Gila starts against Siena! A brace will do him good.
i agree with you castagnola
its GILA time
artan
11th September 2007, 13:21
I hope Gila starts against Siena! A brace will do him good.
to be honest, id be happy if gila could have a good game even without scoring a single goal.
jani
11th September 2007, 13:37
Who wouldnt? But he needs a goal and actually thats the most important.
I think a goal or two even playing badly would be better than playing well and scoring none.
castagnola21
11th September 2007, 15:49
Who wouldnt? But he needs a goal and actually thats the most important.
I think a goal or two even playing badly would be better than playing well and scoring none.
Agreed. Playing well and not scoring will not do much for his mental game. His job is to score, thats why Milan bought him.
jani
11th September 2007, 16:37
Gazzetta says that considering Kaka will only return from the USA on Friday, he will most likely be rested vs Siena and Carlo will play with Inzaghi and Gilardino.
They also say that if Pirlo is played vs Ukraine, he will also be rested for this match and Emerson will take his place.
Gurre
11th September 2007, 17:02
I really hope Pirlo can't play against Ukraine. I don't like it at all that his good form is being spillt on the nationalteam.
brickeberg
11th September 2007, 17:44
They also say that if Pirlo is played vs Ukraine, he will also be rested for this match and Emerson will take his place.
Oh for gods sake :omg:
brana77
11th September 2007, 21:43
guys we have a problem
PIRLO ???
KAKA ?????
RONALDO ????????
Ancelotti is nervous its to early to stay behind Juve or Roma 4 or more points.Pirlo and Kaka must play against Siena.
fillipo
11th September 2007, 21:57
wenn the desperation reached his highest level, a helping hand will be close! don't worry guys we'll be fine :D
castagnola21
11th September 2007, 23:02
guys we have a problem
PIRLO ???
KAKA ?????
RONALDO ????????
Ancelotti is nervous its to early to stay behind Juve or Roma 4 or more points.Pirlo and Kaka must play against Siena.
I can imagine a midfield like this
Gattuso-Emerson-Gourcuff
--------Seedorf----------
-----Pippo----Gila--------
That is good enough to beat Siena!
artan
12th September 2007, 11:52
Agreed. Playing well and not scoring will not do much for his mental game. His job is to score, thats why Milan bought him.
Gilardino and scoring .... pffffffffff :(
jani
12th September 2007, 12:09
He has more than 30 goals to his credit for Milan.. Not too good, but he still scores.
fillipo
12th September 2007, 13:00
I can imagine a midfield like this
Gattuso-Emerson-Gourcuff
--------Seedorf----------
-----Pippo----Gila--------
That is good enough to beat Siena!
indeed, that should do the job don't worry be happy :D
castagnola21
12th September 2007, 15:40
Gilardino and scoring .... pffffffffff :(
I think it is a little early in the season to be already on the Gila Bash Wagon, we are only 3 competitive games in (2 wins and a draw). He is coming off an injury, he is not a striker like sheva, he needs service. Give him some time to get his feet.
Danaconda
13th September 2007, 01:00
this is a big game for gila, gourcuff and seedorf (if kaka doesnt play). hope all of them step up. btw is pippo injured?
.......................Dida....................
oddo..........nesta......kala.......janku
..........gattuso....pirlo....ambro....
...............seedorf.....gourcuff......
.........................gila.............
brana77
13th September 2007, 20:37
Kaka is 100% out of this game so Gila is in.another chance for him to do something.come on Gila come on
jani
13th September 2007, 20:51
where did you read he's 100% out?
jani
13th September 2007, 20:57
Nevermind. Gazzetta says Pirlo and Kaka will be on the bench.
Anyway, I pray to god Carlo does not play Ambro-Rino-Emo!
GIVE YOANN A CHANCE
brana77
13th September 2007, 21:10
where did you read he's 100% out?
calciomercato.com
a Siena riposa Kaka
Santi
13th September 2007, 23:37
If only we still had Foggia... :(;):D
Hopefully Gila can take advantage of some of these opportunities he's going to have. It would be nice to see Gourcuff get a chance also.
jani
14th September 2007, 00:59
How is actually Gilardino going to score with only Seedorf supplying from midfield?
I really hope the line up prediction is wrong.
Rosso
14th September 2007, 11:39
I expect 1.60 for victory from gamebookers.com and return of Ronaldo :)
Ronaldo will not play, but bet is 1.50 for Milan's victory. Handicap (-1) - 1.92.
Yasser
14th September 2007, 12:13
How is actually Gilardino going to score with only Seedorf supplying from midfield?
I really hope the line up prediction is wrong.
Exactly my trhoughts.. Poor Gila..
fillipo
14th September 2007, 15:05
These are the players for the siena game:
GOALKEEPERS: Dida, Fiori, Kalac; DEFENDERS: Bonera, Cafu, Digao, Favalli, Jankulovski, Kaladze, Nesta, Simic; MIDFIELDERS: Ambrosini, Brocchi, Emerson, Gattuso, Gourcuff, Seedorf; ATTACKERS: Aubameyang, Gilardino, Inzaghi.
i think gourcuff will play this game.
brana77
14th September 2007, 15:26
no PIRLO no KAKA
CARLO what are you doing?
castagnola21
14th September 2007, 15:35
no PIRLO no KAKA
CARLO what are you doing?
Pirlo played all 180 minutes of Italy's games this past week and we have a CL game on Tuesday. Kaka played the vast majority of Brazil's two friendlies in the US and is probably exhausted from the travel.
jani
14th September 2007, 15:37
Yeah, dont blame Carlo for not calling up Pirlo and Kaka. Blame international football.
One thing you can blame Carlo for is if he fields a superbad line up tomorrow.
fillipo
14th September 2007, 16:03
--------------Dida-----------
bonera--nesta--kaladze--jankulovski
-----------emerson----------
gatusso------------gourcuff---
----------seedorf------------
---pipo---------gila-----------
this certainly is a squad that can perform well against siena, altho i think that he will only field gila and add ambrosini to the squad
brana77
14th September 2007, 16:13
they can be on the bench if something goes wrong
Giuseppe_S
14th September 2007, 17:36
cant wait for kick off, i know that it will be shown on HK sports channel which uis on soppy and Caifu sports on ppmate. we have to win this one.
Ian
14th September 2007, 18:33
cant wait for kick off, i know that it will be shown on HK sports channel which uis on soppy and Caifu sports on ppmate. we have to win this one.
Bet365 are also showing it live as well, but you need to register first!
castagnola21
14th September 2007, 18:40
they can be on the bench if something goes wrong
if we can't beat Siena without Kaka and Pirlo then we are in serious trouble.
brickeberg
14th September 2007, 18:45
I don't think it's about beating Siena without Pirlo and Kaká. IMO we clearly have the quality to do that.
It's about having a plan B when those two are gone. And going by the Gazzetta formation predictions I don't think we have a plan B.
Walker
14th September 2007, 18:54
if we can't beat Siena without Kaka and Pirlo then we are in serious trouble.
So true! I hope Carlo will not be afraid to field Gourcuff. I would hate to see Emerson, Ambro, Rino and Brocchi in the starting lineup. I would also like to see Bonera instead of Nesta or Kaladze in the starting 11. Cafu and Jankul are sure to start as well as Dida. It will be also interesting to see if Carlo plays both Gila and Pippo from the start. But I think one striker with 5-men mid is what we are going to see. Anyways nothing but an easy win is acceptable.
brana77
14th September 2007, 19:35
if we can't beat Siena without Kaka and Pirlo then we are in serious trouble.
we can do it.Siena is not a team who can beat us.
Seedorf and Gila to score that is my prediction.
Giuseppe_S
15th September 2007, 08:37
Bet365 are also showing it live as well, but you need to register first!
yeah i already know about that, but the thing with bet365 i've tried everything to get my stream running smoothly but to no avail as it keeps on laging, hence why i'm sticking with soppy, ppmate and tvants as it lags less. Either way though this should make for another interesting game especially that we have a couple of key players resting up due to international duties.
artan
15th September 2007, 11:44
we gotta show that we are "Kaka&Pirlo" undependent. as second, Yohann must play this game. This is a unique opportunity for Carlo to show that he trusts this lad, and for Gour to show that he is capable to sub Kaka and fill in his shoes.
and playing Pippo and Gila together , last year at SS if you remember brought us nothing against Siena.
Yasser
15th September 2007, 15:55
Being Kaka and Pirlo dependent is no shame, every big team have 1-2 players that aren't replacable.
I hope Gourcuff gets the nod ahead of Brocchi or even Pippo (Since we'll face Benfica on Tuesday) as I doubt he'd be able to play 2 games in 3 days.. Also, the Gila-Pippo partnership always sucked.
Yasser
15th September 2007, 16:51
SIENA: Eleftheropoulos; Rossettini, Portanova, Loria; Grimi; Jarolim, Vergassola, Galloppa; De Ceglie, Maccarone, Bucchi.
MILAN: Dida; Cafu, Nesta, Kaladze, Favalli; Gattuso, Emerson, Brocchi; Gourcuff, Seedorf; Gilardino
YOANN GOURCUFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Leffe
15th September 2007, 16:57
Forza Johann :clap: Can't wait 10 minutes to go.
FORZA MILAN :flag:
jani
15th September 2007, 16:59
Everyone was already bashing Carlo for even thinking of playing only Seedorf in midfield
Im quite sure he reads the forums :D
Walker
15th September 2007, 17:05
Nobody was bashing him. Some of us simply shared our doubts about Carlo’s will to give the young Frenchmen a chance.
Interesting team. I only wished he had played Bonera. Also Favalli is a surprise. I think this 11 shows that Carlo is rather afraid of the Benfica encounter on Tuesday and wants to get a good start to our CL campaign.
Anyways Forza Milan!!!
castagnola21
15th September 2007, 17:09
That line-up should beat push siena aside with ease. I'm happy to see Carlo willing to rotate the squad. Come on Gourcuff and Gila!! Don't be surprised if Favalli scores :)
ac_champs
15th September 2007, 17:10
anyone got any links to watch the game (except bet365)??
Ian
15th September 2007, 17:31
What a mistake by Dida and Kaladze:$ ,| :o
FFS!
ac_champs
15th September 2007, 17:34
Dida and Kaladze both with howlers and Maccarone gives Siena the lead!!!!
1-0 siena....
eurosport.com
Ian
15th September 2007, 17:39
Seedorf very unlucky, great technique:)
Yasser
15th September 2007, 17:41
This is bad really..
Dida's mistakes are just too much, get us Gomes or Amelia, they aren't great but they don't do mistakes every 2 weeks!
Ian
15th September 2007, 17:42
Siena playing nine men behind the ball...at home! 8-[
jani
15th September 2007, 17:48
whats the surprise?
anyway, Dida makes a complete howler and conceds a goal yet makes two super saves haha
Ian
15th September 2007, 17:49
Favalli proving he's not Milan quality;)
At the moment we are being outplayed!
Ian
15th September 2007, 17:52
Half time and what a shocking half! Let's hope Carlo can fire them up for the second half:omg:
Leffe
15th September 2007, 17:58
This is bad really..
Dida's mistakes are just too much, get us Gomes or Amelia, they aren't great but they don't do mistakes every 2 weeks!
And Kaladze could have kicked the ball in the stands and nothing would have happend, altough it's a mistake by Dida but he made a good save before goal
Anyway, this is awfull, Kaladze 2 - Favalli not even worth 0, Cafu is so slow ..., just can't believe what I'm looking at :$
Qasá
15th September 2007, 17:59
Does anybody else not have sound on bet365?
Leffe
15th September 2007, 18:00
Half time and what a shocking half! Let's hope Carlo can fire them up for the second half:omg:
IF his brain works :o , sad very sad, we need 2 strikers and now !!! and not last 5 minutes, WE MUST WIN !!!
Qasá
15th September 2007, 18:00
its ok, i have it now
Ian
15th September 2007, 18:01
Does anybody else not have sound on bet365?
Sound is working fine for me.
Pippo warming up for the second half.
Ian
15th September 2007, 18:04
IF his brain works :o , sad very sad, we need 2 strikers and now !!! and not last 5 minutes, WE MUST WIN !!!
Pippo is warming up so hopefully you'll get your wish, although knowing Carlo Gila will come off!:omg:
Watching the game I noticed that Brocchi launched a few balls to Gila, IMO this is not going to help Gila as that is not his style of play. We need to create chances for him not just lump it to him and hope he can perform a miracle!
Yasser
15th September 2007, 18:04
We need Jankulovski.. Favalli can't attack.
Ian
15th September 2007, 18:08
Finally Carlo, finally:)
Two forwards:d
Ian
15th September 2007, 18:09
Rino for Pippo
Yasser
15th September 2007, 18:10
Rino for Pippo
Yeah right :D
yourmood
15th September 2007, 18:10
1- Dida - i think its a mistake we kept him, the goal in the 1st half an amateur goaly dont do this mistake.
2- Gila - wtf is he doing!!! a player who cant play as a single forward!!! Kaka, Seedorf and Prilo use to give him great passes and now Gourcuff is and we saw nothing from him.
3- Gourcuff - an excellent 1st half 8/10, he deserve to play with the 1st team not when we play with the 2nd team, last season he played 21 games started with 9 and in CL 8 games started in 5, we need to see him a lot more ...
Qasá
15th September 2007, 18:12
Gourcuff moves more like Kaka this second season...im very surprised by it but also happy
Qasá
15th September 2007, 18:15
He really moves like Kaka! But plays like Seedorf...this is really really good to watch! Btw is anybody eslse p***ed off with this commentators Italian Accent?
Yasser
15th September 2007, 18:22
Forza Gilardino!
We all know what he's capable of, his records speaks for itself, even at his 2 "bad" Milan years he scored 36 goals.
Sheva is doing much worse at Chelsea, does this make him an awful player? Adriano haven't scored since.. I don't even remmeber..
JANKULOVSKI IN.
Yasser
15th September 2007, 18:22
He really moves like Kaka! But plays like Seedorf...this is really really good to watch! Btw is anybody eslse p***ed off with this commentators Italian Accent?
I have it on TV :p
Did you move to France? :)
Qasá
15th September 2007, 18:23
Yah, just off the border with Germany...If anybody is in the neighbourhood...lets go watch a Milan game!
Qasá
15th September 2007, 18:28
Emerson (Who had a very good game, he will be a good purchase) off for Ambro
Yasser
15th September 2007, 18:28
Probably late October if you're still there :)
Walker
15th September 2007, 18:31
Should we loose this game, what a ****ed up way to start a season. 4 points in 3 games.
Qasá
15th September 2007, 18:43
freekick just on the edge of the box
fillipo
15th September 2007, 18:50
let me describe this game in wise words....
WE SUCK
Walker
15th September 2007, 18:54
The ref has given us 5 more minutes.........
Qasá
15th September 2007, 18:54
Bnesta!¬!!!! **** Yeah
fillipo
15th September 2007, 18:54
when all hope is gone, there is always our killer nesta left :D
Yasser
15th September 2007, 18:55
Nesta saves us from a very embaressing defeat..
Ian
15th September 2007, 18:55
Forza Nesta:d
Yasser
15th September 2007, 18:57
Seedorf free kick hits the bar :(
Qasá
15th September 2007, 18:58
Crossbar Then On The Line!!! Gay!
fillipo
15th September 2007, 18:58
DAMMED actually felt a little hope in those last minutes
seedorf great free kicks to bad!
jani
15th September 2007, 19:02
We would have done much better had we not conceded the early goal.
When we got 11 men all inside the penalty box it was never going to be easy.
Yasser
15th September 2007, 19:07
Well jani, we are very slow, no movement without the ball and very predictable.. We sucked badly
Yasser
15th September 2007, 19:08
For those who are bashing Gilardino: Sheva have missed 2 must goals for Chelsea.. So stop bashing our striker!
ac_champs
15th September 2007, 19:12
does anyone have dida's and kala's "dumb and dumber" moment (and i quote channel4.com)
GattusoKing
15th September 2007, 19:13
Two points dropped, an unconvincing display and the usual suspects (one in particular) are costing us points - it seems just like old times...and I'll probably be saying the same thing in a couple of years time.
My one wish in pre-season was for Dida to not perhaps revert to his imperious form of old as that's slightly unrealistic, but to eradicate the errors from his game. Contrarily, he's now making them with alarming regularity - by my count that's three for this season and we've barely begun.
If we had a more reliable reserve keeper I'd blood him immediately, but it seems as though we'll have to wait until January at least (January of 2011 knowing Galliani) before we're rid of the one goal deficit that is Dida. God help us.
curki
15th September 2007, 19:24
I'm going to say only this:
Dida and Gilardino - disaster
Leffe
15th September 2007, 19:26
For me the fault is and stays Kaladze, come on, he kicked next to the ball ... he just should have kicked it 100 meters further or in the air.
About Gila : I believe in him and did he or even Pippo got one good pass ???? Always Gila this and Gila that, he just doesn't receives ONE good ball !!! Our midfield was bad today and our gameplay was SLOWMOTION !!! We can't win like this and I'm so dissapointed in Carlo for fielding this squad. 4 points out of 9 = a disgrace.
I can expect point loss against : Roma, Lazio, Fiorentina, Inter and Juve but all other teams should be crushed by us, even with this squad
Yasser
15th September 2007, 19:27
I still back Gilardino.
It's just a bad phase, why all this attack on him? 36 goals in 2 years isn't bad at all.. Go see how our legendary Sheva is performing in the EPL..
Ian
15th September 2007, 19:40
For me the fault is and stays Kaladze, come on, he kicked next to the ball ... he just should have kicked it 100 meters further or in the air.
About Gila : I believe in him and did he or even Pippo got one good pass ???? Always Gila this and Gila that, he just doesn't receives ONE good ball !!! Our midfield was bad today and our gameplay was SLOWMOTION !!! We can't win like this and I'm so dissapointed in Carlo for fielding this squad. 4 points out of 9 = a disgrace.
I can expect point loss against : Roma, Lazio, Fiorentina, Inter and Juve but all other teams should be crushed by us, even with this squad
Agree 100%
Haroon
15th September 2007, 19:51
A pedestrian performance with 3 points would have been good at this stage.
Unfortunately we have dropped further points against a minnow club and this is a persistent little problem. Emerson was brought in for this purpose so it is good to see him start.
However, we need to find a quick formula to start winning these small games otherwise the Scudetto becomes a very big challenge.
Oddly enough, there is a chance of Juve stretching their lead further and a Juve side that is not considered hot favourites at this stage could suddenly start looking stronger and stronger.
We should have won this game. However our B-Side is pretty shallow compared to the A-Side.
Ideally we should have won our first 3 games on the trot for a firm Scudetto challenge but we have slipped twice now and that is not a good start.
We need to start off well against Benfica in midweek.
GattusoKing
15th September 2007, 19:53
Kaladze far from covered himself in glory but we wouldn't even be talking about his indiscretion had Dida not shelled the most basic of shots.
It's chore enough for the defenders to do their own jobs without worrying about clearing up after the ever hapless Dida.
jani
15th September 2007, 19:57
For me the fault is and stays Kaladze, come on, he kicked next to the ball ... he just should have kicked it 100 meters further or in the air.
About Gila : I believe in him and did he or even Pippo got one good pass ???? Always Gila this and Gila that, he just doesn't receives ONE good ball !!! Our midfield was bad today and our gameplay was SLOWMOTION !!! We can't win like this and I'm so dissapointed in Carlo for fielding this squad. 4 points out of 9 = a disgrace.
I can expect point loss against : Roma, Lazio, Fiorentina, Inter and Juve but all other teams should be crushed by us, even with this squad
5 points.
And you are disappointed with Carlo? What did he do wrong here?
fillipo
15th September 2007, 19:59
faults can happen, it's something you can't control for a 100% every coach knows that he can conceed a goal.
But what you can take some action in is after losing multiple points in these games, because we can't break them is think about a solution!!!! and stop playing with this predictable endless crosses to no one... we'll never win the scudetto if carlo won't think of a new strategy in these kind of games
Haroon
15th September 2007, 20:17
Kaladze far from covered himself in glory but we wouldn't even be talking about his indiscretion had Dida not shelled the most basic of shots.
It's chore enough for the defenders to do their own jobs without worrying about clearing up after the ever hapless Dida.
It's natural for defenders to not be at their best if the goalie is suspect. The defence is a team within a team and they are as good as the weakest link.
No way can I understand Dida being paid so much. We can't let him go because we will still have to respect his contract and pay him out till it expires even if he is not a Milan player.
I am more concerned about Juve than Inter in the Scudetto race.
It is early days in the season but a couple of more blips in the Serie A will really hurt us bad. Nothing is lost till now but the start is below average IMO. We should have won all these games. There's no tiredness right now. We need Ronzilla back and fit real quick.
brana77
15th September 2007, 20:28
no DIDA no KALADZE no GILA,CARLO is guilty for this poor result.i repeat they can be on bench(PIRLO and KAKA)if something goes wrong.
Dave
15th September 2007, 20:55
I'm going to say only this:
Dida and Gilardino - disaster
I would agree with Dida but Gila? He can't be judged as he did not receive any good ball. Calling him "disaster" is too harsh. Pippo did nothing in 35 min. as well. The problem was in our midfield. We were too slow and predictable.
I really liked Yohann. He was our most active player and almost the one who was moving. Someone mentioned that his moving reminds him Kaka. I would add that he sometimes reminds me C. Ronaldo. Carlo should field him much often.
BTW Grimi played a solid game IMO. I think he should get a chance next season.
Finally, FORZA SANDRO!!! The man is incredible. :thumb:
jani
15th September 2007, 21:11
Grimi should replace Favalli's position here next season. Not too great, but as you say, solid.
Anyway, Gourcuff was our best player IMO. He made us forget Kaka but it remains clear without Pirlo our midfield crumbles.
It was horrid seeing Emerson and Brocchi trying Pirlo-esque passes :D
jani
15th September 2007, 21:34
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Santi
15th September 2007, 22:29
A disappointing result, no doubt.
The team actually started the well game. Too bad for Gila...he was unlucky that one of his early shots did not go in...he had a look of pure disbelief after somehow Elef kept his header out. He just has to keep working hard, not lose more confidence, and eventually I'm sure those goals will fall for him.
Encouraging performance from Gourcuff, Nesta was best for Milan, IMo...he's reaction after the Maccarone goal was priceless.
What a blunder by Dida, but I guess that's the norm for him now. Kaladze didn't help him out...but Dida should handle that shot 10x out of 10. Milan should seriously consider bringing in Amelia or some other GK that will challenge Dida for the starting spot...he's a player that's at his best when he has competition, Imo.
Not fair to blame Carletto...he puts in the players he has at his disposal. Move on now and think about the CL...hope to have a nice start there. :)
FORZA MILAN!!!!!
Leffe
15th September 2007, 23:14
It's chore enough for the defenders to do their own jobs without worrying about clearing up after the ever hapless Dida.
I don't agree with you there, you must always expect the ball, one bad bounce and the defenders must be ready, simpel as that
Qasá
15th September 2007, 23:19
Positives: Gourcuff + Emerson
Emerson showed that we can rest Ambro/Gattuso in these games. He is so strong and also good at making lateral balls. He keeps it nice and simple; if only we had Pirlo chipping the ball in next to him rather than Brocchi!
Gourcuff was bright, and tried things. This is what i like, he tried step overs and drifted to the left hand touchline. He dropped back, and rushed forward. He definately has the all-round skills and mentality to not be afraid to play like this. He now needs to work on his final ball, and playing more forward, rather than moving side to side more. He reminds me of C. Ronaldo in his first season at Man U. The way he tries things out, and is not afraid to have a go. And like the early-Ronaldo, i hope he becomes more direct, and takes shots or makes more telling passes, because that is where he is so far lacking. He Will learn though :)
No need to comment on the negatives. They have been covered
Leffe
15th September 2007, 23:20
5 points.
And you are disappointed with Carlo? What did he do wrong here?
Not to take Kaká - Oddo - Pirlo with the team and give them a spot on the bench ;) Ok they are tired and must rest for CL, but come on it's the first match of group stage ... for me scudetto can be lost once again, sure it's not I know but still, as I said before we MAY NOT drop points against such teams.
But Kaká not even at the bench is just stuppied, that man only needs 10 minutes for break that defence.
And I read Carlo saying, we must and can play better then that ???? I hope so or you can putt me in a white coat in a room with soft white walls ;)
Also am I the only one who thought Gourcuff wasn't that great at all, ok he coverd the entire pitch and ran a lot but did he break up the defence or midfield like Kaká does ?? He WORKED hard but played well ... I have my doubts about that Emerson als didn't impressed me at all, he can do MUCH better
Okay maybe I'm harsh about some players but we are Milan for god's sake, wearing that shirt mean's something !!!
Yasser
16th September 2007, 00:39
Positives: Gourcuff + Emerson
Emerson showed that we can rest Ambro/Gattuso in these games. He is so strong and also good at making lateral balls. He keeps it nice and simple; if only we had Pirlo chipping the ball in next to him rather than Brocchi!
Gourcuff was bright, and tried things. This is what i like, he tried step overs and drifted to the left hand touchline. He dropped back, and rushed forward. He definately has the all-round skills and mentality to not be afraid to play like this. He now needs to work on his final ball, and playing more forward, rather than moving side to side more. He reminds me of C. Ronaldo in his first season at Man U. The way he tries things out, and is not afraid to have a go. And like the early-Ronaldo, i hope he becomes more direct, and takes shots or makes more telling passes, because that is where he is so far lacking. He Will learn though :)
No need to comment on the negatives. They have been covered
I like this post..
Yasser
16th September 2007, 00:45
@ Haroon:
I won't worry about Juve, they are coached by Ranieri who is easily one of the worst coaches in the world when it comes to teams with "expectations"..
It won't take much before they crumble.. Roma and Inter will be tough though..
jani
16th September 2007, 05:17
Not to take Kaká - Oddo - Pirlo with the team and give them a spot on the bench ;) Ok they are tired and must rest for CL, but come on it's the first match of group stage ... for me scudetto can be lost once again, sure it's not I know but still, as I said before we MAY NOT drop points against such teams.
But Kaká not even at the bench is just stuppied, that man only needs 10 minutes for break that defence.
Kaka returned from a long journey to the US on Friday after playing a big majority of Brazil's two games there, Pirlo was already carrying a knock from the France game and STILL played vs Ukraine while Oddo was also not fit for this game.
How you are blaming Carlo for not bringing unfit players is beyond me.
People always go on and on and say "Carlo cant even trust Gourcuff when Kaka is only 40% fit, what an idiot", but when he does it he still gets stick. Its hilarious at times :D
Gurre
16th September 2007, 07:59
People always go on and on and say "Carlo cant even trust Gourcuff when Kaka is only 40% fit, what an idiot", but when he does it he still gets stick. Its hilarious at times :D
I know, isn't it funny?
Leffe
16th September 2007, 09:46
I have a lot of faith in Gourcuff, for me he is like they say the new "Zidane" and yes he can only improve better but yesterday was not good
Giuseppe_S
16th September 2007, 10:16
i think we can all agree when i say we need a new keeper
artan
16th September 2007, 12:06
Bad game , bad result , bad display... if someone is to blame that has to be Dida,again for x- times , for his inconsistency. 2 good saves , than a howler that cost us 2 points.
we cannot blame Gilardino this time.
brana77
16th September 2007, 12:09
against Fiorentina we are tired because of Sevilla,against Siena we are tired becauce of EURO 2008 qualification and friendly games. that is not escuse for this results.players have month and a half for rast and now in 5 games they are tired.
Leffe
16th September 2007, 12:30
And the season just started, we now have important weeks coming ... we need every player to stand up and give 101% or else the scudetto can be lost in a few weeks already
artan
16th September 2007, 12:34
Dida e Gila, i problemi continuano
Portiere non convince, bomber non segna
Il gol in extremis di Nesta ha, in parte, cancellato le facce scure in casa Milan, ma restano i "casi" di Nelson Dida e Alberto Gilardino. Il portiere ha compiuto l'ennesima papera da un paio d'anni a questa parte: a Siena c'è stata anche la partecipazione di Kaladze, ma è clamorosa la mancata presa sul gol toscano. L'attaccante non riesce a sbloccarsi e continua a fallire occasioni anche piuttosto facili.
Le assenze contemporanee di Pirlo e Kakà hanno tolto alla squadra rossonera la spina dorsale consueta della squadra, ma anche chi era presente non ha certo svolto al meglio il proprio compito. Su tutti due personaggi, purtroppo (per i tifosi milanisti), già noti: Dida e Gilardino. I due giocatori hanno fornito un'altra prova deludente, con tanti errori e pochi lampi.
Il portiere è stato colpevole sul gol dei toscani, non trattenendo una conclusione debole di Corvia e dando il via libera, con la cooperazione di Kaladze, a Maccarone. Da quell'ormai famoso petardo che lo colpì nel derby europeo con l'Inter del 2005, ci sono state numerose papere: dal tiro non irresistibile di Gasbarroni in Milan-Samp all'uscita sbagliata in Supercoppa europea 2007, passando per un clamoroso liscio in Milan-Chievo e un paio di errori in Manchester-Milan, che potevano compromettere l'esaltante avventura europea.
L'attaccante biellese, invece, è l'ombra di se stesso. Micidiale e letale sotto porta quando era al Parma, da quando si è trasferito in rossonero sono stati più i momenti bui che quelli da ricordare. In questo inizio di stagione, poi, non riesce a sbloccarsi: un miracolo di Frey gli toglie il gol con la Fiorentina, poi sbaglia praticamente tutto e viene sonoramente fischiato da San Siro, ora i gol falliti all'inizio al Franchi, che potevano dare una svolta diversa dalla gara. Pirlo e Kakà torneranno presto, ma una grande stagione rossonera passa anche dalla rinascita di questi due giocatori
Filipez
16th September 2007, 13:09
everybody knew dida wasnt milan class anymore! only our management didnt see this. like i said many times, the most important thing for us in the summer was replacing dida, we didnt and now we are paying for this! and this wont be his last error...
Yasser
16th September 2007, 16:53
Juve lost, Inter won and Roma got their 3rd win in a row.
Napoli are ahead of us too :p
The only club I fear in Italy this year is Roma, not Inter..
jani
16th September 2007, 16:58
Inter will struggle because they seriously lack creativity. Which would hurt them in games like we played yesterday when our two main men were out.
Roma have a super squad which is balanced and does not rely on one player so if they miss one, its never that big of a deal.
Juve on the other hand, will be competing with Fiorentina and Lazio for the CL spot, not for the Scudetto.
Filipez
16th September 2007, 17:17
i still see inter as our main rivals... but i dont exlude juventus! they still have a very very good team! and offcourse roma who had an excellent transfer campain and got a very balanced team.
Yasser
16th September 2007, 17:26
Juve very good transfers campaign?
Imo it was awful.. Signing Almiron and Tiago is useless, they spent 25m on similar players who can't play together..
They signed an average coach and ADP demands to play always or he's angry..
Inter lacks creativity? Well it's the same like last year.. They have too much muscles in their team and this usually works in Serie A (Just like Juve of Capello)..
GattusoKing
16th September 2007, 17:43
Having been a long-term critic of Tiago's, I'm not surprised to see him languishing on the sidelines, even with such a weak squad as Juve's.
To waste such a vast amount of a limited transfer chest on a guy who puts the O in ordinary... Thank God he opted against a move to Milan.
If Inter don't put all their eggs in the CL basket, I expect they'll pip Roma to the Scudetto.
Yasser
16th September 2007, 19:09
Inter will reach the QF at best.
But unlike last year, there are already problems.. Vieira clashing with Matrix, Zlatan with Matrix, Mancini with Adriano, Mancio with Vieira.. And once results stops going their side, these problems will explode :D
jani
16th September 2007, 19:13
Inter lacks creativity? Well it's the same like last year.. They have too much muscles in their team and this usually works in Serie A (Just like Juve of Capello)..
Similar to Capello's Juve, a lot will depend on Zlatan the way Capello depended on Nedved.
Roma look good, but now they go into a super schedule which will make or break their season.
If they pass this phase they actually deserve to win the Scudetto.
Gurre
16th September 2007, 19:39
Having been a long-term critic of Tiago's, I'm not surprised to see him languishing on the sidelines, even with such a weak squad as Juve's.
To waste such a vast amount of a limited transfer chest on a guy who puts the O in ordinary... Thank God he opted against a move to Milan.
If Inter don't put all their eggs in the CL basket, I expect they'll pip Roma to the Scudetto.
The problem with Tiago is that he is only good in the right environment. He isn't a player like Kaká that alone can do a great impact on the team. He can't lift a team like Juventus as it is expected, that's why he doesn't play well.
Tiago only blossoms in the right tactic with the right teammates, and on Ambrosini's position in a christmas tree formation, I am still sure that he would fit like a glove.
Yasser
16th September 2007, 19:46
I very much agree with Gurre about Tiago..
brana77
16th September 2007, 19:54
ROMA-they play without preasure they are dangerous
INTER-they dont have a plan scudeto or cl
JUVE-they dont have capacity to fight with the others
LAZIO,FIORENTINA and PALERMO fight for 6th place
MILAN CAMPIONE :d :d :d
GattusoKing
16th September 2007, 20:16
What I find quite damning is that Tiago's had a fair few managers. He doesn't hang around anywhere too long - he's always perceived as dispensable given an acceptable offer.
Granted that he can do a steady job given the right system but I don't think you'll win a great deal with him in your side.
Filipez
17th September 2007, 05:35
Juve very good transfers campaign?
Imo it was awful.. Signing Almiron and Tiago is useless, they spent 25m on similar players who can't play together..
They signed an average coach and ADP demands to play always or he's angry..
Inter lacks creativity? Well it's the same like last year.. They have too much muscles in their team and this usually works in Serie A (Just like Juve of Capello)..
i was talking about roma who had a good transfer campain!
Yasser
17th September 2007, 07:19
My bad :D
Rosso
17th September 2007, 08:33
Not a bad result for this squad (without Kaka and Pirlo). I'm sure we will win Benfica and next opponent in Serie A.